This wicked judge is trying to infringe people’s rights, and I’m sure he knows better.
The cop, (who should also know better, or should be fired for incompetence) blindly follows the orders of a wicked judge.
These people will stand before God and give an account. The cop won’t be able to point at the judge and say, “I was just following orders.” He will stand alone and answer for his actions.
After watching this video, and seeing that a DUI checkpoint was held in a church parking lot, I decided I must contact the church. I included the email I sent them below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsiXDz6REMY
Hello,
I attend a Calvary Chapel. I became aware that in April 2014, you allowed police to conduct a DUI checkpoint in your parking lot.
I’m certain you had good intentions in allowing this checkpoint on your property. Minimizing drunk driving is a worthwhile goal. However, the ends do not justify the means.
This nation was founded on the Bible. The founders attempted to implement biblical law in our country. This country certainly was not perfect (slavery was an egregious exception), and no society of men ever will be perfect, even though we have access to God’s perfect law (Psalm 19:7).
However, we have descended from there at an ever-accelerating pace. My explanation for why this has happened is that Christians have abandoned our place as people who proclaim right and wrong to the government. We have the only source for absolute morality: God’s law. Only Christians can tell the government what is right and wrong, because no one else has God’s law.
There may be other contributing factors to America’s decline, but the blame for why government has become tyrannical must be laid at the feet of Christians. In the case of the DUI checkpoint, rather than proclaiming why checkpoints are evil, you offered your property to them. In that, you failed to be salt and light and contributed to the degradation of our freedom.
As with most other American institutions, police have become more and more unbiblical. I would like to make the case to you that the police as we know them are horribly unbiblical and Christians should not support them any longer.
1. Police are allowed to lie, and do so often.
2. Normally, police can’t pull drivers over unless they are suspected of a crime. That in itself is unbiblical. But at a checkpoint, they can pull everyone over. This is a heinous violation of the 4th amendment upheld only by lawless judges, of which we have an abundance.
3. Police are under a special set of laws. They aren’t held to the same standard of conduct as citizens. This is grossly unbiblical.
In ancient Israel, there were no government agents going around looking for trouble. It was the victims who pressed charges when they were harmed.
This is much like the system the founders gave us. In early America, victims would often act as the prosecuting attorney (or hire an attorney). Victims or private citizens would execute search and arrest warrants. There weren’t even police until the 1830s.
I’m not saying their system was perfect, but it was way closer to the biblical example than we have today. Check out http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm for a free history lesson.
I have only learned these biblical principles within the last couple years, so if I say anything harsh, I say it humbly, knowing that I blindly supported the police not that long ago. I pray that you receive this as a Berean.
I can send you more information if you’re interested.
—————–UPDATE 7/4/15—————–
The email was not well-received by Dave Dodge, an assistant pastor. His email response today says,
“I don’t see anything humble or revelatory in your email. Be a a Berean yourself and read Rom 13, especially the first six verses. Please don’t send us anymore of your information. Renew your with real vision and under the on going revelation contain in the depth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. “
I’m glad there’s nothing revelatory in my email. Sometimes I worry that I’m the only one who hasn’t bought into peitism. Unfortunately he must have rejected previous revelations. And as far as my desire to be humble, to clarify, I don’t mean to be humble about declaring what the Bible teaches. I want to be as bold as a lion (Proverbs 28:1) in that regard, but humble in not looking down on others who haven’t yet learned what I have learned. What do I have that wasn’t given to me?
As far as Romans 13, if he believes that it teaches that he ought to rent his parking lot to the cops, that would be the most radical interpretation of that passage I’ve ever heard. That would mean that we must grant every request of government, even if it involves us sinning. I have to assume that isn’t what he meant, because that would mean they’re not even Christians.
Renting your parking lot to police is not required under Florida law, and it is sinful under God’s law. When confronted with their sin, they respond defensively and with a false interpretation of Scripture.
Here is the email I sent in response:
Your surface-level interpretation of Romans 13 contradicts the rest of Scripture. You’ll soon be marrying homosexuals under a judge’s order if you’re going to remain consistent with that, right?
Happy dependence day.
I certainly hope that he would say that he’ll never in a million years perform a same-sex marriage, no matter what a judge says, no matter what it might cost, even to the point of being thrown in jail.
So even he would say (I trust) that there are limits to Romans 13. What it really teaches is that the magistrates are God’s ministers for rewarding good behavior and punishing evil. What is good and evil apart from God’s standard? If the government defines good and evil, then you better get ready for the gay marriages at Calvary Chapel St Pete.
Here’s the pastor’s info where you can send an email.
This is un-American. This is unbiblical. It is evil. What do they have to hide?
I don’t know about any other state, but the Colorado law says that you don’t have to present ID unless you’re suspected of a crime. The number is 16-3-103, and I have that memorized in case they ever pull that on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ncYuWTarc
This is written by Copblock Hernando.
As Americans, we must live with the fact that police officers have no obligation to serve and protect the very citizens that are coerced into paying their salaries. [This is a ruling from the Supreme Court.] Coupled with the fact that modern police institutions are tasked with enforcing immoral laws that lead to unnecessary violence and imprisonment, victimizing a society who believes they are free, leaves very little recourse for change.
Usually when bad players exist in a market, people will stop supporting them and opt to support a competitor who may offer a better quality of service. This market force often leads to bad companies going out of business while good companies thrive. However, in the protection services market, we only have one provider to choose from, that being your local police department.
This established monopoly on force has created an absolute monster of violence where it is beginning to become too risky to call the police, even if you are being victimized. Therefore, I have created a list of reasons why you should never call the police.
10. They will respond to the wrong house and kill your neighbors dog.
Just last month, Ian Anderson’s dog, Burberry, fell victim to a police bullet when police showed up to the wrong house in response to a ‘domestic disturbance’ call in his neighborhood and shot the pit bull in the head.
Surveillance video shows one officer petting the rather calm service dog just outside Anderson’s door until another officer arrived on scene, startling the dog by yelling, then fired one deadly shot after the dog advanced towards the cowardice officer. Whatever that disturbance happened to be that early morning in March, I’m positive the issue could have been resolved with a non-violent solution.
Often times, calling the police will just escalate the situation and leave the suspected party full of resentment. Talk to your neighbors, find a peaceful solution, or remove yourself from the situation until emotions calm, but never call the police.
9. They will accidentally shoot your neighbor in the neck.
In December 2014, Ramiro Armendariz was walking about his Albuquerque apartment when he was struck by a stray bullet in the neck. As it turns out, police were called to investigate a burglary in the apartment directly above Armendariz’s when Officer Tamas Nadas got his leg caught while entering though a broken window, and proceeded to fall to the floor.
In the process of falling, Nadas managed to put his finger on the trigger of his service weapon and pull the trigger. “I came in and this leg got caught up here, and because we clear houses my gun was right here and I fell down,” the officer is heard saying.
The accidental discharge shot through the second floor apartment and continued traveling through Armendariz’s neck. @2014 captured the near deadly snafu, where officers can be heard on the radio shortly after the shot was fired… “I have one male in the apartment, the one below … and it looks like he’s got blood to the neck. I can’t see what it’s from,” another officer is heard saying. “He’s got blood? Oh my God,” the officer who fired says. Luckily, Armendariz was treated and released, but it doesn’t erase the fact that police are often caught being negligent with their firearms. For God’s sake, stop calling the police.
8. They will assault you.
Carolyn Wade of Galveston Texas found out the hard way that police no longer protect or serve our communities. She called police to talk to her 14-year-old granddaughter who was threatening to run away. But, when former GPD officer Brandon Nelson showed up, he placed the teen in handcuffs and ‘man-handled’ Wade’s daughter. When Wade asked the officer what he was doing, she claimed he called her a coward, placed her in handcuffs and slammed her head against the wall. It was insane, said Wade. It was absolutely insane.
Wade was pictured in an @2015 having bruising under both of her eyes, consistent with being slammed face first against a wall. Older generations who grew up with half-way civilized police forces are often taken aback when police insert themselves into a situation but end up making matters worse, often resorting to unnecessary violence. Take a lesson from Grandma Wade, don’t call the police.
7. They probably won’t show up anyway.
With the social policies of yesteryear turning up broke, financial crises are inevitable and the quality of police services will dwindle until they are essentially worthless. Look no further than Detroit for a glimpse of the future. For example, Charlie LeDuff produced a segment for the local Fox affiliate in Detroit where he chronicled the ridiculous response time for a delayed burglary in Detroit.
A woman, after returning home from work noticed that her home had the signs of a burglary and called the police with hopes they would clear the house and document the stolen property. While waiting for the police to respond, LeDuff was able to make a food-run (twice), take a shower and read a book to the woman’s grandson, all while waiting for police to show up. Nearly 4 hours after the original call, police finally show up and give the woman a case number and tell her that someone ‘might’ show up next week to dust for prints.
It seems that police are more concerned with generating revenue, than actually fighting the criminal elements of society. Busting pot smokers and lead foot soccer moms is a much easier way to @2014. After all, there’s not much money in fighting legitimate criminals, so you’re better off clearing your own house and conducting your own investigation if the need ever arises. Don’t even waste your time calling the police.
6. They will let their K9 maul the subject of your call to death.
Officers in Vineland, New Jersey were called out to investigate reports of a ‘disorderly person,’ but upon confronting the 32-year-old suspect, they punched him repeatedly, and ended up letting their K9 maul the man to death.
Videos surfaced showing a counter narrative to what officers originally reported, that the suspect “reached for the officers gun.” Instead, video shows officers straddling the non-resisting man and throwing a series of ‘ground-and-pound’ punches, resembling those of an MMA cage fight. But, more disturbingly, the officers let their K9 continually maul the man until he eventually died. One officer even attempted to cover up their crimes by telling a bystander who filmed the event that he needed to @2015 for ‘evidence.’
I’m sure the original caller had good reason to believe that the ‘disorderly’ man needed to be restrained, but calling the police is just asking for someone to end up dead. Always look to resolve situations such as these with all non-violent means necessary, but I’m begging you, don’t call the police.
5. They will kill your mentally ill child over a broomstick.
Police have somehow earned the reputation of ‘being brave’ or ‘putting their lives on the line,’ but they continually prove themselves to be nothing more than a group of trigger happy cowards. This statement certainly holds true for Miami Gardens Officer Eddo Trimino when he pumped 5 rounds into the body of 25-year-old and mentally ill man, Lavall Hall, for refusing to drop a broomstick. Hall was schizophrenic and was having an episode on the night of February 15.
His mother had looked out the door and saw him on the sidewalk holding a red broom. After several attempts to get Lavall back inside, his mother called 9-1-1 for assistance to get her son back to the hospital, as he had only been released one week prior. The mother warned the responding officers, “don’t hurt my child,” for which the officers can be heard on video mocking her.
The department claims that Hall attacked officers with the broomstick and that two officers had fired tasers at him which were ineffective. Officer Trimino then fires five shots into Lavall, killing him. The family maintains that this was a murder and that the police had no intention of leaving the scene with him alive. The moral of this story is to never call the police for help with your mentally ill family member. They will end up dead.
4. They will respond to the wrong house and kill your neighbor.
In certain circumstances, you don’t even have to physically call the police to be part of the process where an innocent man ends up dead. Jerry Waller was shot dead in his garage after Ft. Worth, Texas rookie police officer, Alex Hoeppner, responded to the wrong house as a result of an activated burglar alarm which was tied into the 911 system. Hoeppner, unaware that odd addresses are on the opposite side of the road than even addresses, approached Waller near his garage.
Waller was brandishing his handgun as he was also investigating a suspicious noise around his house. Hoeppner claims that Waller was uncooperative to his commands, and alleges that Waller pointed the gun at him, so he fired 6 shots into the innocent homeowner. Without video evidence available to corroborate the story, a grand jury believed the story of the cops and cleared the rookie of all charges. Buy a shotgun, get training, but never call the police.
3. They will kill your mentally ill son over a screw driver.
A Dallas, Texas woman is now regretting calling the police to help with her 39-year-old mentally ill son when two DPD officers show up and @2015 dead for holding a screwdriver. Police initially said that Harrison had become aggressive when officers ordered him to drop the screwdriver and that the officers’ actions were justified.
Harrison’s brother Sean called that claim “a slap in the face.” Jason was off his medication but had no history of violence and had not threatened anyone. “There’s no way you can look at that video and say they did the right thing,” Sean Harrison told reporters. Video from one officer’s @2015 fades to black as Harrison’s mother wails, “Oh, they killed my son! Oh, they killed my son!”
The officers continue to tell Harrison to drop the weapon. Geoff Henley, Harrison family’s attorney said in a statement… “When you’re dealing with somebody who is mentally ill, you’re not supposed to agitate! You’re not supposed to move fast! You’re not supposed to inflame!”.
It’s obvious that police are not properly trained to handle the mentally ill who often don’t obey commands of anyone, let alone the police. I don’t have the best solution to remedy these types of situations, but I know for sure, calling the police is very bad idea.
2. They will punch you in the face and shoot your dog.
Maryland homeowner Sterling Barlow and his brother were victims of an attempted car jacking outside his residence in 2010. Luckily, he was able to scare off his attackers by firing one shot with his handgun. However, his neighbors called the police after hearing the gunshot– and things went down hill from there. When police arrived, they believed Barlow and his brother to be the alleged car-jackers, and proceeded to tackle them and punch the men in the face.
While five officers wrestled the Barlow brothers to the ground, one female officer took aim at Barlow’s dog and @2010, killing it instantly. To add insult to injury, Barlow was arrested for ‘insulting a police officer.’ Although you may want some sort of vengeance by getting criminals locked up, you are putting your life in danger by simply calling the police to your residence. A simple breakdown in communication between the caller, the dispatcher, and the responding officer could prove to be deadly for you or your pets. Don’t call the police.
1. They will assume you are the suspect and shoot you.
47-year-old Daniel Martin Jr. made the fatal mistake of calling the police when he discovered vandals outside of his home in Lawton, Oklahoma. Martin and his wife Tina were inside the residence when the alleged vandals were outside their door. Tina convinced Daniel to call 911 to report the suspicious activity outside their home. When on the phone with the dispatcher Martin made it clear that he was armed… “They’re still at my front door,” he said. The dispatcher asks if the vandals have a firearm, and Martin says he can’t tell. “But I have one,” he adds. “I’m inside with my weapon.” When police heard shots they went to the door and asked everyone to come outside, knowing that the victim who made the 911 call might be carrying a gun.
Despite the warning, both officers opened fired on the man as he opened his door. Martin died within moments, and the officers were cleared of all charges and allowed to return to their jobs without any sort of independent investigation.
This is crazy. He’s exactly right that she has no business being a police officer, and I’m so glad he refused to be fingerprinted.
A high speed chase led to the death of two kids and the injury of others.
Of course, police are unbiblical and unconstitutional. I’d be willing to bet the cops were chasing a car for doing something that isn’t even a violation of God’s law–just the arbitrary laws of men.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-tear-neighborhood-stopping-chase-plowing-killing-children/#KKteYddu6lksAU83.01
This is a big deal. Here is a 29 page article. I suppose you might call it a booklet at that length. It is shocking what we have come to tolerate and how much things have changed since 1776. Every American ought to read this. I’m going to do whatever I can to get this into people’s hands.
The police are unconstitutional and bear a striking resemblance to the redcoats who occupied colonial America and prompted the colonists to declare their independence.
After we kicked the British out, the idea of an army of more than 700,000 people driving around looking for crimes and harassing people to generate revenue would have been anathema to the founders.
Here are a few important points about police from the late 1700s America.
1. There were no police. The word “police” didn’t even have the same meaning as today.
2. Private citizens executed search and arrest warrants.
3. Grand juries (of private citizens) investigated crimes and determined whether someone should be put on trial.
4. Most crimes that are solved today are solved because the victim could identify the perpetrator, or the perpetrator left evidence at the scene. If neither of those things happen, the crime is likely to go unsolved by police. Therefore, having police isn’t a great advantage.
5. Constables and sheriffs existed at the time, but they were held to the same standard of conduct as everyone else. Constables were volunteer positions.
6. No one could be arrested without a warrant, unless they were caught in the midst of a felony.
7. Felonies were death penalty crimes.
8. If anyone tried to arrest someone without a proper arrest warrant, they were free to resist arrest. Bystanders could help them resist arrest by whatever means necessary. At one point, the US Supreme Court ruled that it was permissible to shoot a policeman who attempted to arrest someone without a proper warrant or without good cause.
9. Private citizens were expected to help enforce the law.
10. The state was rarely named as a party in even criminal cases. Oftentimes the victim was the prosecutor in the trial.
11. “At the time of de Tocqueville’s observations (in the 1830s), “the means available to the authorities for the discovery of crimes and arrest of criminals [were] few,”47 yet Tocqueville doubted “whether in any other country crime so seldom escapes punishment.”48Citizens handled most crimes informally, forming committees to catch criminals and hand them over to the courts.49 Private mobs in early America dealt with larger threats to public safety and welfare, such as houses of ill fame.50 Nothing struck a European traveler in America, wrote Tocqueville, more than the absence of government in the streets.51
12. Police now have special laws protecting them from civil and criminal liability. They are a class of people who receive special treatment under the law.
13. It is largely forgotten that the war for American independence was initiated in large part by the British Crown’s practice of using troops to police civilians in Boston and other cities.244 Professional soldiers used in the same ways as modern police were among the primary grievances enunciated by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence. (“[George III] has kept among us standing armies”; “He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to the civil power”; “protecting them, by a mock trial….”).245 The duties of such troops were in no way military but involved the keeping of order and the suppression of crime (especially customs and tax violations).
14. If pressed, modern police defenders would have difficulty demonstrating a single material difference between the standing armies the Founders saw as so abhorrent and America’s modern police forces.
15. “Under the Founders’ Model, a private person like Josiah Butler, who lost twenty pounds of good pork under suspicious circumstances in 1787, could approach a justice of the peace and obtain a warrant to search the property of the suspected thief for the lost meat.314 Private individuals applied for many or most of the warrants in the Founders’ era and even conducted many of the arrests.
16. As opposed to the high standard for warrants in the past, police can now find cause to stop pretty much anyone they want. And by using drug-sniffing dogs, they can cause the dog to alert and they can search any car they want without a warrant. A dog can be trained to alert on command, or they can simply say the dog alerted whether true or not.
17. It is in the best interest of police that the citizens have as few rights as possible. At the time of the Supreme Court decisions of Miranda and Mapp, the Garland, TX police chief was so upset by the limits placed on his power that he said, “We might as well close up shop.”
Of course, I’ve caught flack for saying the police should be abolished. I realize it’s a minority position, but only due to a lack of historical knowledge, which I have also suffered from. It turns out, I hold the traditional position of America and the founding fathers while people who defend the police are defending something that would shock the founding fathers.
I didn’t want to sit in front of my computer and read the long article, so what I did is copy and paste it from the webpage to a Word document. Then, I saved it as a PDF and I was able to read it on my old Kindle. When I pasted it into the document, it was 70 pages, and I read to page 30 and discovered the rest was footnotes, so this is a very well documented article.
I hope my points inspire you to read the article as it is very much worth the time.
Bojidar Marinov said:
Well, first of all, I would recommend that police doesn’t exist. Neither the Bible, nor the Constitution allow for the existence of a standing army of executive privilege to harass civilians. Warrant-less arrests must be abolished – except in the case of preventing a crime – and constitutional order restored, where only a court order or verdict can legalize arrests. The very concept of the right of police of arresting people on executive decision by the cops themselves is immoral, and is also against the Constitutional order envisioned by the Founding Fathers. It is a typical totalitarian measure. The US didn’t have police until corrupt Democrat politicians created it, and before America had police, “hardly a crime was left unsolved or unpunished” (de Tocqueville).
Second, there are enough methods for THREE persons to detain ONE person without inflicting pain. Police, though, is specifically trained to inflict pain – first, because it satisfies their sadistic impulses, and second, because it is a religious statement of domination. Police was specifically created to establish a totalitarian domination over the population.
Third, most of the “crimes” today are actually violations of some illegal and unconstitutional government policy. Until the War Between the States, the government was never a party in court cases. There was no government policy to enforce, and people were free. Police came with the big government, and remains exclusively an instrument of big government. The safety and security of the people has been and can be maintained without police.
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A Facebook friend pointed out that the redcoats occupy every American city, but no one is man enough to care.
Don’t let the cops into your house. Make them get a warrant. Set up every little roadblock possible to make it more time and money consuming for them to do their job.
Fight your traffic tickets. Help clog up the revenue generation scheme. Some cities don’t even bother with a prosecuting attorney and just take the easy cases where people mail in a check. Some cities fund their entire police department on their traffic tickets.
Abilish the police!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdPbLkkYnfU
At 2:20, Murray says that you don’t have 5th Amendment protection when you’re not under arrest. Is he that stupid, or is he lying? I bet he really is that stupid.
Also, you don’t have to turn over your keys. That would be covered by the 4th Amendment.
Abolish the police!