Category Archives: Police Abuse
More Bad Apples
I found four more bad apples. (That is four out of four in this case or 100%, who don’t know the law or care about the constitution. I guess it would be four out of five if you count the police chief who apologized for the false arrest.) If cops were M&Ms, would you eat a big handful?
Ten Difficult Truths
You probably won’t hear this from many pulpits, but the Bible teaches these truths. If you want to learn more, I can help point you in the right direction. These have not been easy pills for me to swallow, and I suspect they won’t be easy for most others, but Christians are to be truth seekers and tellers, regardless of the consequences.
- The U.S. government at every level is antichrist. It is your enemy.
- The U.S. dollar system/federal reserve is sinful.
- Public school is a sin. Sending your kids there is a sin.
- The American law enforcement system is sinful and needs to be abolished.
- Drugs aren’t illegal under God’s law, and only tyrants are in favor of them being illegal under man’s law.
- Taxation is theft, voting for a tax increase is a sin.
- To have government agents controling the border is sinful.
- Requiring driver’s licences, building permits, liquor licences, business licences and on and on is a sin.
- Prison/jail is an unjust, wicked punishment.
- The U.S. has fought many unjust wars, and having a standing army is a judgment from God.
I’m not offering my opinion. These items are biblical truths. You are sinning if you send your kids to public school, are in favor of closed borders, support police, are in favor of keeping drugs illegal, vote for tax increases, etc.
These are controversial topics, but like I said, I’d be happy to explain why these items are true from the Bible.
Something to Think About
This is from a random commenter. I don’t know who the guy is, but it is interesting.
Ok…I’ve been relatively quiet about this topic for a long time…
But, considering all we’ve been seeing lately, and your Biblically consistent view, I must say something…I had the privilege of working with the K9 units of many law enforcement agencies, both local and from other cities and states. Did I work with all LEOs? No. Did I work with the leadership? Generally, no. However, I worked, daily and consistently, with the head of our county’s K9 unit and the SWAT leader. I interacted with police officers from many areas, cities, counties, states, and varying responsibilities (K9, patrol, SWAT, task force, highway, etc.).
The one thing I took away from all that despite the (few) shining examples of honest men of integrity…never, ever, not for one moment, trust a police officer. Yes, they serve a valuable role in our society. But, there is a systemic racism and god-complex among the vast majority of the officers I knew, worked with, had lunch and dinner with and hung out with. The prevailing mentality among the guys I knew was “I have a badge and a gun; I own you.” (Yes, this is a direct quote from more than one police officer I had the privilege of working with).There is absolutely no doubt that a “us (police) vs. them (citizens)” mentality exists. I would argue that it is prevalent. I would argue that it is the norm. I could tell you stories that would turn your stomach. Lives lost. Freedoms taken away. Power abused.
Don’t get me wrong, our police force serves a valuable role in our society and I do very much respect those who wear the uniform…if they do so with integrity. However, I’ve found that those who do are the minority. I hope and pray that I’m wrong, but it seems, daily, that I’m shown to be right.I know you are catching some flack…keep telling the truth, keep exposing the darkness, keep speaking out. We need more Christian voices speaking on this issue. Ultimately it’s a Gospel issue, we cannot remain silent.
Power Worship
What would happen if you posted this video decrying this stupidity to a conservative group? They’d cheer the police on because the people were resisting arrest.
People Like This Is Why We Live In a Police State
If you want to really disrespect the sacrifice of American service men, the story below is the perfect way. America’s military has shed their blood for our rights and this guy just gives them up to government enforcers as if they’re worthless. Kaepernick has nothing on this guy.
And all of this is over having the incorrect sticker on a license plate. The whole thing presupposes that Americans don’t have the right to travel without government stickers.
If only the founding fathers had been such subservient bootlickers, the whole unfortunate misunderstanding with the British could have been avoided.
What’s below is lauded by conservatives, because they’re blinded by false patriotism and the worship of power. We have no knowledge of history because we’ve been educated by the government, for the government. The government doesn’t like people looking too closely at the ideas of the founding fathers, since they rebelled against their government for far less than we put up with.
Matt Powers in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
Today I was pulled over by police. I had a loaded and concealed handgun on me at the time. Please keep in mind that my actions were completely voluntary for one simple reason. This is what happened.
He approached the drivers side and asked if I knew why he stopped me and I said I did not. He said my registration expired June 30 of 2016. He asked to see my drivers license, registration, and insurance card. As I kept my hands firmly locked at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel I immediately stated…..
“For your safety and mine sir I would like to inform you that I am a legally armed citizen. I have a concealed carry permit in my wallet. I don’t want to get my registration and insurance card because I have my pistol in the same compartment as my documents. The pistol is in the small compartment under the cup holder. Please be careful, there is a round in the chamber, the thumb safety is on, and there’s an extra magazine with it.”
He asked that I keep my hands on the wheel like they were and asked again where my handgun was. He asked where my wallet was with my permit card. I answered and then said…..
” I would like you to take possession of the handgun. I’ll get out of the truck if you want me to while you get it.” He told me that would be great and thanked me for my cooperation.
When I got out of the truck he wouldn’t turn his back to me. I asked if he would like to search me for any other weapons so he knew I wasn’t a threat. He said….
“If you don’t mind that would be great. Do you have any other firearms or weapons on you or in the truck?” I replied that I did not.
The police officer searched me and retrieved my handgun from the compartment with my documents and asked permission to retrieve my drivers license and conceal carry permit from my wallet. I gladly gave him permission to get what he needed. I also gave him permission to search the rest of my truck if he wanted to if he felt it necessary. The officer declined the consent I gave him to search.
After all the formalities the cop brought my pistol back to me and I said “If you want you can just lay everything on the drivers seat and I’ll get it when we’re done.”
I thanked him for being as calm as he was especially dealing with someone that had a handgun that was legally carried. The cop thanked me for my cooperation. He asked me to sign the warning ticket and to make sure to get my registration taken care of ASAP.
I thanked him and the back up officer for their service and told them to be safe, especially nowadays with all the crazy shit that was going on. I told them that was the reason I carry a handgun myself. I shook both of their hands. He handed me my warning and I went on my way.
After the cold blooded terrorist attack and hate crime in #Dallas and that day learning about #BatonRouge where the blood spilled still fresh in the minds of every American I chose to do what I thought was right.
The moral of the story.
It’s about everyone’s safety.
It’s about respect.
When you treat people with civility you get treated with civility.
Thank you Altoona Police Department for having professional law enforcement officers representing your department and protecting the well being of the city.
We Are The Problem
Bojidar Marinov says:
American conservatives used to point to cases of police brutality in Eastern Europe as one of the characteristics of Communism.
Today, the same conservatives loudly defend police brutality in the US.
The real Marxists in the US are the conservatives. Only two groups in the last century have defended police with such vigor: Communists and American conservatives.
White People
More unarmed black guys have been killed by police and blacks are rioting and destroying things.
One thing that Bojidar Marinov points out is that it is completely inconsistent to celebrate the Boston Tea Party and decry the current rioting going on. At least $2.5 million worth of tea was destroyed at the Boston Tea Party.
I talk to my friends, who are all white, and they’re scared of doing anything to rebel against the government, and I can certainly see why; the government is violent. But the black rioters don’t seem to be scared of anything.
I think they are not applying their energy in the right direction. They need to go break innocent people out of jail or organize a way to respond rapidly when the cops show up to evict someone for not paying their property or income taxes.
Another Police Victim
Here’s wise words from Bojidar Marinov
Since I was asked to weigh in on Terence Crutcher’s murder, I would offer the following:
No one should be surprised that cops are murderers in cold blood. That’s what police was created for in the first place – to subjugate a free people. Just like government schools, government welfare, government central banks and currency, government regulations, government security – that is, police – was created to serve the government against its own citizens.
What will be much more worthy of our attention, though, will be the actions of the prosecution, which will find ways to save the murderer from justice. And then watch the police unions. When they step in to support the murderer, and no individual cops speak up against this support, you will know exactly how many good cops are there in Oklahoma. That is, ZERO.
Thus, all the talk about “better training” is useless. Better training on thugs in uniforms will only make them more skillful thugs. The truth is, police must be abolished. It’s a standing army, the arm of tyranny.
This Conversation Is Well-Worth The Time
I will just copy and paste the whole thing:
Bojidar Marinov Joel’s point is the schizophrenia of the GOP establishment who for the last 50 years have developed in their “conservative” constituency the statist idolatry of cop-worshipping. The same establishment rejects Trump. But now their uniformed heroes endorse Trump. So the GOP establishment has to explain how they and their “finest” uniformed thugs have different ideas about Trump.
But I think the schizophrenia started much earlier, and it is in the suicidal Republican pro-police position of the last 20 years. In the mid-90s, Republicans were against the militarization of police and were generally against the police state. Since then they have changed their position to worship any cop anywhere, while at the same time the police unions have remained firmly in the grip of the Democrat Party. The FOP itself has contributed 100% to Democrat causes for the last 20 years – and yet, Republicans continue worshipping police.
Laramy Gregory The FOP endorsed McCain in 2008. What are you talking about and where do you get that figure of 100% as it relates to contribution to Democratic Causes?
Local lodges, who have more of a chance to influence elections, vary in their endorsement of candidates. Our local lodge has consistently endorsed Republican candidates for as long as I have been a member. We contribute to causes that are are of a Republican concern and also a Democratic concern and causes that are bi-partisan.
Can you enlighten me on where you are getting your information? Would you like to recant or qualify your previous assertion concerning 100% contributions?
Your statement about uniformed thugs is highly offensive and broad. What is your chief reason for describing someone in law enforcement in those terms?
Chuck Canterbury, National President of the Fraternal Order of Police, today announced the organization’s endorsement of Senator John S. McCain III for the office of President. “The FOP carefully considered the records and the responses of both candidates and, in our evaluation, Senator McCain will…
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Bojidar Marinov McCain is a practical liberal, that’s why the uniformed thugs supported him. Police is a heavily unionized gang; and we know which party is supported by the unions in this country.
Right here some numbers, although not exhaustive. One can clearly see which party profits from the FOP’s contributions:
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00382556
When you follow the small portions that go to Republican politicians, they all turn out to be just like McCain: RINOs, liberals with an R.
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Bojidar Marinov Right here, an article that exposes the lie of “conservative police.”
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Bojidar Marinov One had just to see which party jumped to the defense of Darren Wilson when he murdered Michael Brown: A Socialist Democrat organized his fund-raising campain (contributions mainly from conservatives, because someone has to be the idiot), the prosecuto…See More
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Greg Renfro Did you really just claim that Darren Wilson “murdered” Michael Brown? In what could easily be studied as the best textbook example of a justified use of deadly force by a police officer you make the accusation of “murder”? Was this ever meant to be a rational discussion or just emotional bloviation?
Bojidar Marinov You are a little too quick to judge, without knowing the case.
I have explained it why from a Biblical perspective it is a murder. Read it and then, if you have any Biblical argument against what I wrote, tell me what it is. If you don’t have a Biblical argument, or if you don’t want to read it, I don’t give a dam about your brainwashed opinion.
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Greg Renfro Thank you for sending me your article. I appreciate the fact you at least care about arguing from a biblical perspective. I don’t really appreciate your last sentence as you appear to disregard other biblical commands of respect and gentleness to others. Maybe you would agree? Due to the time now, I will read it tomorrow and respond when I can.
Bojidar Marinov My last sentence was conditional. You will have to worry about it only when you meet the conditions. If you meet the conditions, then you will deserve every bit of the rest of the sentence.
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Greg Renfro My last sentence was a question. I appreciate the fact you answered it by pointing to an article you spent a considerable amount of time writing. So, actually my sentence was conditional and you, for an unfortunate reason, continued your aggressive tone and now added name calling to your list. In a rather surprising display of hypocrisy, you ironically made yourself guilty of your own cited scripture regarding hypocrisy. Interestingly enough, it appears to be similar to your use of scripture in your article. Although, you make good points in some places, you go off script in emotional tangents and attempt to extrapolate passages to explain away intricate details of case studies vs case studies–as if they can be directly compared. Both are taken out of their proper context and therefore you incorrectly reach conclusions that are not actually biblically justified. In regards to Darren Wilson, you dismiss actual facts of the case and ignore faulty testimonies of un-reliable witnesses. You do this all based on the presupposition that you do not recognize the authority of law enforcement officers. While I welcome the discussion of the role of PD officers in society today such a discussion is nothing but perverse to inject theory in dealing with a case study when a persons life was taken by an official, on duty, sworn, law abiding, legal law enforcement employee. In other words, limit the context of the case study to the case study so your bias opinion that apparently spans far beyond the limits of the situation doesn’t cloud your judgement when analyzing if a DW was innocent or not. Have intellectual discussions of that magnitude elsewhere, not during a case study dealing with deadly force. Just putting aside biblical law for a moment, I guess I need to remind you we don’t live in a biblically theocratic society today. So, in other words we are not set up to follow a strict biblical jurisprudence even if you believe Mosaic law is binding to governments today. As Christians we work to bring all things under King Jesus, but we also deal with present day realities of societies. I am assuming you are not currently calling for the capitol punishment of all potential offenders in accordance with Levitical law? If you are, then were is the court? If you are not, then why not?
There is much more to say, but at this point I’d rather limit the discussion in an attempt to remain focused on setting the foundation. Maybe we can return to the specifics of DW and MB at some point? Thank you for reading.
There is much more to say, but at this point I’d rather limit the discussion in an attempt to remain focused on setting the foundation. Maybe we can return to the specifics of DW and MB at some point? Thank you for reading.
Bojidar Marinov So, your only real argument is that we do not live in a Biblically theocratic society today. Therefore, Darren Wilson did not commit murder.
Which means, abortion is not murder either. We do not live in a Biblically theocratic society today.
You did not go to the Bible to see if the Bible even allows for police. You just took the modern pagan state and made it your standard. You are a practical pagan, not a Christian, if the modern culture is your ethical/judicial standard above the Bible.
Like I said above, I don’t give a dam about your brainwashed opinion.
Greg Renfro Regarding abortion, that is a classic non-sequitur argument. My point was one of jurisprudence on jurisdiction. Since Mosaic Law is not being enforced in our society we cannot pretend to try another person by legal structures that are not in place. To …See More
Bojidar Marinov “To follow your argument to it’s logical conclusion than everything a police officer does is illegitimately unjustified and thus they are therefore always guilty of all wrongdoing, because there very existence is wrong.”
I take it you didn’t even read my article. Another good reason to ignore your babbling.
Greg Renfro Actually, I did read it. Despite the length, I used up many precious minutes of the day to do so. I can admit it’s possible I missed something, but I don’t think so. You made it clear their existence was where you began your objection. I extrapolated it further. I did make an attempt to understand your arguments, but one does not have to read your own commentary to evaluate an issue biblically. Your lack of response to my last appears telling.
Bojidar Marinov If you said you read it, and yet you wrote the sentence above, you lied in one of the two sentences. Goodbye.
Nicholas Perez A conservative/Christian (in that order) man on FB was criticizing those “Marxists who oppose police…”
I answered with a question, “Can we have Marxism without police? We know we can have freedom and a high regard for rights without police–eg, early America; Ancient Israel; Europe prior to Enlightenment–but can we actually have Marxism without police?”
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Laramy Gregory Your own link proves you are misleading when you say 100%. This link also only discusses the National FOP PAC, not the contributions from local lodges or their individual PACs. When you paint with a broad brush you better be able to back it up.
Will you recant or qualify your previous statement?
Bojidar Marinov 😀 Recant? Because it is not 100% but 90%? And because the 10% that goes to Republicans goes to die-hard liberals like McCain? Are you kiddin’ me?
Let’s see, I went to the local lodges to see. (And this time I am not going to show you the website, you find it yourself, being the smart stern you are.)
Over the last 20 years, the largest donors among local FOP lodges:
Baltimore City FOP Lodge 3: Democrats $155,235, Republican 18,335.
Chicago Lodge 7: Democrats $337,500, Republican $181,137 (Almost no giving to Republicans in the last 10 years, most of these R-contributions are from before 2000.)
And the same thing everywhere: Florida State Lodge, Capital City Lodge 9 (absolutely no contributions to Republicans whatsoever for the last 20 years), Indiana State Lodge, Lodge 123, Lodge 5, Illinois FOP of Police Labor Council, Maryland FOP, Nashville FOP Lodge 5, Ohio State FOP (most of Ohio’s funds “undesignated” but when followed individually, most go to liberal PACs, close to $1 million), Prince George’s County Lodge 89 (quite a lot of money for Democrats for such a small place), etc. All these donate predominantly to Democrats. If you are giving me the example of a small insignificant local lodge which has contributed $2,000 over the last 20 years, this is nothing.
Of the big givers among the lodges, only Pennsylvania State Lodge has Republicans and Democrats on a balance, and it is not sure how many of these Republicans are really conservative.
It is very clear that police everywhere is a Democrat whore, and does nothing else but work for the socialist agenda of enslaving America. Police is unconstitutional, it is a standing army, and it was created specifically to advance socialist agenda.
Police must be abolished.
Bojidar Marinov “Your statement about uniformed thugs is highly offensive and broad. What is your chief reason for describing someone in law enforcement in those terms?”
Truth is always offensive. Look at crime statistics, and look which category of crime is the only category on the rise. It is police killings. Look at the money stolen each year by cops – more than all the thieves together. Look at the sexual crimes committed by cops. Look at the cases where a cop commits a crime and all the other cops just sit there and watch.
Yes, “uniformed thugs” is the correct word. And If there was one honest cell in you, you would have first considered whether it is true or not, not whether it has hurt you tender feelings or not.
Laramy Gregory I am at a loss for why you or Joel are referring to police officers in this manner. I don’t understand your motivation. In full disclosure, I am grieving the loss of a friend who died honorably in the line of duty. I am trying as much as the Holy Spirit will enable me to speak to you and Joel in a manner in which dialogue can happen and a view point that I have can be expressed in a godly manner.
My friend, and as of his death, local FOP President Kenny Moats died honorably in the line of duty 8-25-16. He responded with another officer to a domestic disturbance in which family members were being threatened with a gun from another family member. Officer Moats as well as another responding officer placed themselves in-between the offending party and the unarmed victim, the offender’s Father. My friend, Kenny Moats, was struck and killed from a single gunshot in an area not protected by his vest. He died as a result of this injury in a matter of minutes. He leaves behind a wife and three kids.
I find it incredibly offensive to see Christians engage in conversations about police officers in which the police are painted with such a broad brush without regard to men like my friend and the countless others that lay their life down in the service to others. They know bravery at a level that you and Joel will never comprehend. They walk into danger that is life threatening in an effort to save someone they have never met and have no relationship with. It is heartbreaking to me to see no charity whatsoever in your comments towards officers who stand in the gap between evil and those whom evil would prey on.
In an effort to address a problem you see at a macro level, you engage in conversation that lumps in individuals like my friend. You have offered no qualifiers to your statements. When your statements are proven false, then you decide to research and try to justify your claims. Your column concerning Wilson and Ferguson is laughable to those who understand the use of force in policing. You do not address the facts as it relates to relevant case law (TN vs Garner and Graham vs Conner) which is the standard set forth by by precedent that these officers are to be trained on and in which to enforce the law. If you want to make a case concerning police action, you need to be addressing police actions relative to case law and how established case law conflicts with Biblical principles.
I don’t understand the purpose of addressing officers in the manner in which you do. To refer to them as whores??? How would you minister to my community now sir? What message of hope would you be able to deliver that allows them to see the mercy and grace of Christ in a time of suffering like we are experiencing as well as the wrath of God that will be poured out on the offender if he doesn’t’ repent or be credited to Christ’s sacrifice should the offender repent?
If anything, God has revealed to me through this thread how polarizing generalizations can be. I am amazed at your callousness and the position you have placed yourself in that prohibits you from being a witness to any gospel truth to this community (law enforcement).
Dean May When I see you express similar grief at evil violence and death perpetrated against innocent civilians you might have a shred of credibility.
Greg Renfro Laramy Gregory, I just read your comments above and also have similar thoughts as you. In case you missed it I was just in a brief exchange with Bojidar Marinov about a similar topic. I stomached his insults towards me in an effort to work toward the c…See More
Laramy Gregory Greg Renfro , I really appreciate your comments. I had decided to not to respond to this thread anymore but I wanted to pop back in and thank you for providing something worthy towards a conversation to help me understand what I perceive in these comments.
Greg Renfro Laramy, for what it’s worth someone just sent me this article dealing with Marinov in a more detailed way. I think you will find this interesting: https://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the…/just-facts-maam.html
92 1 1 Bojidar Marinov has a little fun with me here, wishing that I would become more of a…
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Bojidar Marinov You are thinking like a woman, not like a man. You are using a personal experience to make conclusions which should not be made based on personal experience but on ethical/judicial principles.
An individual cop can die like a hero, no one argues again…See More
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Bojidar Marinov And listen to the sessions of the Freedom Conference I did a couple of months ago:
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Bojidar Marinov To the contrary, professional police is about the worst possible alternative out there. That’s why the Founding Fathers never envisioned police, never had any police, spoke strongly against standing armies, and their society was one of very low crime. It’s the emergence of police as an executive institution that created crime.
Laramy Gregory When my friend was murdered I prayed that God would use his death to spread the Gospel. I saw our community, led largely by believers, come together and demonstrate the hands and feet of Christ in it’s ministry to the family of my friend and our commun…See More
Nicholas Perez The individual men in uniform, we love and minister to.
The institution itself is anti-Christian and must be exposed as such.…See More
Nicholas Perez Can you see the flaw in your logic here?
The question you need to address is: do we find justification for a tax (extortion) funded, standing army or pro-active street patrollers empowered to violate (negative) individual rights under the pretense of “preventive” crime, or “serving and protecting”? neither of which are permitted by a Christian theory of law enforcement.
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Bojidar Marinov Calling good evil and evil good is not sharing the Gospel. When we don’t tell the truth about police, this is not sharing the Gospel.
The truth is always a “stumbling block” to those who love lies.
LeRoy Whitman That’s a “heads I win, tails you lose statement” that is not reasoning, and not filled with hope. We do not depend on all civil leaders being upright (look at history), but on the Kingdom growing in society while such leaders hold a line. The “reasoning” behind such a statement falls back to the emotion-led judgment that media has been baiting.
Greg Hoadley Perhaps I’m not a statistics elitist and I just don’t like Trump. And police unions are political after all.
Devon Austin Generally When Republicans love public sector unions……
Greg Renfro Did you really just claim that Darren Wilson “murdered” Michael Brown? In what could easily be studied as the best textbook example of a justified use of deadly force by a police officer you make the accusation of “murder”? Was this ever meant to be a rational discussion or just emotional bloviation?
Bojidar Marinov You are a little too quick to judge, without knowing the case.
I have explained it why from a Biblical perspective it is a murder. Read it and then, if you have any Biblical argument against what I wrote, tell me what it is. If you don’t have a Biblical argument, or if you don’t want to read it, I don’t give a dam about your brainwashed opinion.…See More
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LeRoy Whitman Conservatives have lost in the civil government arena by thinking an “orthodoxy” is needed like in a pastoral candidate. Whereas civil leaders who are upright need to find common ground to build a coalition so they can advance righteous civil goals (wh…See More
Greg Renfro You wrote: “You did not go to the Bible to see if the Bible even allows for police,” implying I haven’t refuted your article arguing a version of that claim. My extrapolation maybe inaccurate, but you didn’t correct it, you simply accused me of lying, which is actually completely false. My goodness, one would think a person who appears so committed to following God’s Law, or what they claim it to be, would be far more careful on their own personal conduct and words since you appear to have violated several scriptural commands just on a facebook forum with a fellow believer you have never met. I mean, c’mon Bojidar, I seriously respected your article despite taking issue with some of your points. I also respect Joel McDurmon as I am literally reading two of his books now and I am trying to understand Theonomic thought more in depth. I am trying evaluate it based on scripture and not on it’s pundits personal conduct. And that is why I even continue typing, because if it was the later it would have already been tossed. Granted, I do not know you personally, and I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt. But seriously, think about it.
Nicholas Perez Greg, just to get you thinking about this topic from our perspective, how does this meme strike you?
Does your heart flinch at the thought of a citizen pulling out his pistol and executing an officer on the spot rather than allowing himself to be assaulted or kidnapped?
The question of the existence of police aside for a moment (which is the real question, to be sure, but in the current situation we want to think as Biblically as we can), do you believe that police have more “rights” than everyday citizens? If an unmarked car approached my vehicle and a citizen got out and asked me to put my hands behind my back with his hand on his gun, I would be justified in killing him, right? Would I be justified in killing a police officer making a warrantless, unjustified arrest (i.e., kidnapping)?
One of the huge issues here is, are police held to the same legal standard as citizens? Should they be? If you say no, you are not only at odds with God’s Word, but with our Founding Fathers, who would have shot a police officer dead for violating their rights.