Category Archives: Theonomy

Must Listen – Session 3 of the Freedom Conference

Here are the highlights from session 3:

Our job is to eliminate:
1. Standing armies. A standing army would have been repugnant to the founding fathers, and it is repugnant to God’s law.
2. Police. Police are a domestic standing army. Any sheriff who has a single piece of equipment from the military isn’t a local. He’s a government henchman.
3. Taxing Agencies. Taxation for any other purpose than that in Romans 13 is theft.
4. Sin tax. Sin taxes are the attempt of a god to reach into our hearts to try to change us.
5. Public school.
6. Economic regulations.
7. Econimic subsidies. Including agriculture, welfare, minimum wage, federal reserve, immigration restrictions.

– 1 Cor. 11:3: “…the head of every man is Christ.” This is a political statement. Government is not the head of any man.

http://reconstructionistradio.com/freedom-conference-the-evil-of-the-executive-state/

 

Must Listen – Session #2 of the Freedom Conference

Happy Independence Day! Today is a day of celebrating the Christian heritage of standing for our God-given rights and opposing the tyranny of King George. It’s also a day of weeping for the rights we’ve so willingly given up, and the fact that so many Americans don’t get it.

Here are the notes from Session #2:

-History is the perfection of Christian creeds over time.

-To believe there is no difference between a Christian and pagan society is to believe the gospel is powerless.

-The church is God’s prophetic voice to the nations.

-The beast of Revelation 13 is tyrannical government. The stars and stripes are the image of the beast. The beast doesn’t allow buying and selling without taking the mark. Government doesn’t allow buying and selling without licenses, permits, Social Security number, work visa, and on and on.

-God can write his law on our hearts. Satan has to attempt to control our bodies, and he uses coercive government.

-God’s law says you’re only under the authority of government when you commit a crime and there are two witnesses.

http://reconstructionistradio.com/freedom-conference-the-sovereignty-of-god-vs-the-sovereignty-of-man/

 

Must Listen – Session #1 of the Freedom Conference

This is the audio from the Freedom Conference held in Tucumcari, New Mexico. Bojidar Marinov spoke in 4 sessions, and it is fantastic. I’ll post the notes I took, and post a link to each audio in the next few posts.

HIGHLIGHTS:

-We have a God-given duty to rebel against a government that violates people’s rights. The line drawn in the Bible is between wise rebellion and unwise rebellion–not between rebelling and not rebelling.

-Respect to authority is bad (except where it is biblical as in the case of children with their parents, etc).

-Romans 13, far from being a call to blind obedience to government, is a full-scale idealogical challenge to Rome (and Washington D.C., Denver, Fremont County and the city of Canon City). Romans 13 is dynamite laid at the foundation of wicked government.

http://reconstructionistradio.com/freedom-conference-the-biblical-christian-duty-to-rebel/

Biblical Pledges of Allegiance

I saw this post on Facebook listing the pledges of allegiance in the Bible. They’re in the Bible, so that means they’re biblical, right? I hope these make you think about whether saying the pledge of allegiance to the American flag is a good idea.

Daniel 3:3-6 Then the satraps, the prefects, and the governors, the counselors, the treasurers, the justices, the magistrates, and all the officials of the provinces gathered for the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up. And they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. And the herald proclaimed aloud, “You are commanded, O peoples, nations, and languages, that when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, you are to fall down and worship the golden image that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.  And whoever does not fall down and worship shall immediately be cast into a burning fiery furnace.

Daniel 6:6-7 Then these high officials and satraps came by agreement to the king and said to him, “O King Darius, live forever! All the high officials of the kingdom, the prefects and the satraps, the counselors and the governors are agreed that the king should establish an ordinance and enforce an injunction, that whoever makes petition to any god or man for thirty days, except to you, O king, shall be cast into the den of lions.

John 19:15 They cried out, “Away with him, away with him, crucify him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar.”

Oh say can you Caesar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HX0Z-LLMVI

What Should I Do?

If the article I posted on Friday was the first time you were exposed to that information, I hope you are in shock. The whole system, down to the cash in your pocket is a fraud. It is all completely unbiblical.

doi3I realize that can be a hard pill to swallow. It’s been hard for me, as it’s no longer possible to be a patriotic American. Independence Day is no longer a day of celebration but a day of mourning and repentance.

But the question is now: What should we do? The purpose of this blog is to work toward secession from this wicked country. That is the ultimate goal, but sometimes I see how even the people in this conservative county act, and I get discouraged at how far away people are from the truth.

So if we can’t secede as a group today, what can we do personally, and to help work toward that goal?

  1. We need to buy gold, silver and bitcoin.
  2. Buy guns and ammo.
  3. Take your kids out of public school.
  4. Plan for a retirement apart from social security, so you don’t have to accept their stolen money.
  5. Get the Cell 411 app on your phone (free) to help eliminate your dependence on police.
  6. Spread the gospel by preaching, conversation, tracts, online, etc.
  7. Film the police and keep local government accountable.
  8. Try to work outside of the system as much as possible (hire illegal immigrants, do remodeling without permits, etc.).

Another Proof of Theonomy

On Friday’s post about natural law, the guy arguing that we ought to be governed by natural law said that there are contradictions between Christ’s law, and civil law. I’d say that is impossible. How can any part of God’s law contradict itself?

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First of all, if you don’t know what the aspects of God’s law are, here is a quick explanation. For this discussion, there will be five aspects of God’s law. The moral, civil and ceremonial are divisions of the Old Testament law given to Moses. That law is beautiful, and perfect (Psalm 19:7). Christians ought to love God’s law (Psalm 119).The moral law: The Ten Commandments are a summary of the moral law. They define what sin is. The vast majority of Christians think that this law remains in effect today.

  1. The moral law: The Ten Commandments are a summary of the moral law. They define what sin is. The vast majority of Christians think that this law remains in effect today.
  2. The ceremonial law: These laws include laws about the Old Testament priesthood and sacrifices and diets, etc. These laws were fulfilled by Christ on the cross. They aren’t applicable today.
  3. The civil law: It isn’t always clear cut how these would apply today. Some seem to be combined with ceremonial law, but where they are clear, the New Testament never says they aren’t in effect today.
  4. The natural law: Is referenced a couple times in Scripture. It is the law written on our hearts, and even those who’ve never heard of the Bible will be judged by it.
  5. The law of Christ: I think there is some divergence here among Christians, but I think there is only one position on this that makes sense, which is the subject of this post.

The natural law guy I discussed this with gave examples from what Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount, and said this is the law of Christ (which I agree) and that if government operated under the law of Christ, they would cease to exist. I think that is preposterous. It is a misunderstanding of what Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount, and sets up all kinds of contradictions. But, the gist is that Jesus was speaking of personal morality not civil law. In Romans 12, it says that we shouldn’t take revenge on those who wrong us, but let the government take care of it. Obviously, Paul wasn’t contradicting Jesus, as Paul was inspired to write by Jesus.

So what is the law of Christ? It is the laws that are applicable to us today. Jesus said, “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments” (John 14:15). He is expecting us to be clear on what His commandments are and obey Him. The laws of Christ can’t contradict any previous laws, though the ceremonial laws are fulfilled. The moral law of the Old Testament is part of it. Furthermore, when Jesus says, for example, that lust is adultery in the Sermon on the Mount, He wasn’t adding to the moral law. Lust was adultery in the Old Testament as well, even if it wasn’t ever spelled out. Jesus wasn’t adding to the law, or changing the law, but expounding on it.

The law of God is a reflection of His character. If you were to say that the law of Christ contradicted the civil law, you’re causing all kinds of problems. The moral law of the Old Testament was perfectly consistent with the civil law of the Old Testament. The civil laws are the case laws of moral infractions. In Exodus 20, God gives Moses the Ten Commandments. In Exodus 21, there are civil laws—application of the moral laws given in the previous chapter. You can’t tell me there is a contradiction between the civil law and the moral law. If you did, you’re saying there are contradictions between Exodus 20 and Exodus 21.

The Sixth Commandment is “You shall not murder.” What is murder? When someone breaks into your house and you kill him, is that murder? That question is answered in the civil law. (The Bible doesn’t line up with Colorado law).

The New Testament says murderers will have their part in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8-9), but it never defines murder. When Nazis murdered Jews that was legal under German law, but does anyone think that if the Nazis don’t repent they won’t go to hell for that? If I murder someone under the civil law, but it is legal under Colorado law, does anyone think that I won’t go to hell for that? Does the law of the land make any difference when I’m standing before God? Does God care about Colorado law?

All that to say that the best law and the only law consistent with the moral law is the civil law of the Old Testament. This is called theonomy.

The church better get this figured out. We can’t afford 100 more years of the stupidity we’ve had, and the self-contradictory mush of this natural law guy. This kind of biblical ignorance isn’t going to defeat tyranny as he was hoping.

Is Natural Law A Valid Concept

Some Christians who are opposed to a Christian theocracy governing a country like to tout natural law. Natural law was also popular among the founding fathers. I’ve been looking forward to discussing natural law with someone, and I have pasted the conversation below.

Natural law is a phrase that is found in the Bible. The way the Bible talks about it is the law that is written on our hearts. Our conscience reflects natural law, and it is the minimum standard we’ll all be held to on Judgment Day–even those who never had access to Scripture.

But thank God that everyone reading this has access to Scripture. We don’t have to wander in the dark trying to figure out what natural law is when the law is spelled out explicitly in Scripture. Natural law would have to be completely consistent with Old Testament law and any changes to the law found in the New Testament. It wouldn’t make any sense for natural law to contradict Scripture.

So, it seems to me that those who say we ought to govern by natural law but not by Scripture are setting up their own contradictions. All we have to do is point out the contradictions.

Every human being on earth lives in a theocracy. The only question is whether it will be a Christian theocracy governed by God’s law or a pagan theocracy governed by a false god. The choice seems obvious to me.

—————— ME

I don’t mean to post a long list of questions for you to answer in detail. Hopefully short answers will suffice.

1. How do we find out what natural law is?
2. Do you believe God’s law revealed in Scripture contradicts natural law?
3. If there are no contradictions, why wouldn’t we just say government ought to operate under God’s law which is most clearly revealed in Scripture?
4. Jesus said, “All authority in heaven and earth has been given to me…” (Matthew 28:18-20). Does Christ’s authority include authority over government?
5. Jesus said, “Whoever is not with me is against me” (Matthew 12:30). If our government and constitution don’t acknowledge the lordship of Christ, do you think they are for or against Christ?

When a Muslim government cuts off a thief’s hand, is that just or unjust? When a Mexican sneaks across the border, would it be acceptable for the government to shoot him? The Bible speaks on these questions and ALL other questions of civil law and justice. If you reject God’s law, all you have to go on is your opinion.

You might not like Muslims cutting of a thief’s hand, but his arbitrary opinion is just as (in)valid as your arbitrary opinion. Go to a Trump rally and ask whether we should shoot illegal Mexicans crossing the border. (I’ve heard some of them say we should.) Are you going to respond by quoting Cicero and appealing to natural law? I would quote Leviticus 19:34, and say that anyone who shoots a Mexican “illegally”crossing the border will stand before God as a murderer on Judgment Day, whether they have the blessing of Congress or not.

—————— THE NATURAL LAW MAN

1. How do we find out what natural law is? (According to Cicero in the first century B.C. “reason and rationale of one made in God’s reveals Natural Law”)
2. Do you believe God’s law revealed in Scripture contradicts natural law? Christ’s NEW Commandmant to “love one another as I have loved you” (John 13:35)? Is that the Law to which you refer? If so, then NO.
3. If there are no contradictions, why wouldn’t we just say government ought to operate under God’s law which is most clearly revealed in Scripture? Which Law, CHRIST’S LAW? If that’s the Law which you intend, then re-read the first paragraph of the post. IF YOU MEAN THE MOSAIC LAW – then the only issue you have is “remembering the Sabbath” – “lying” (which the government of the United States has never outlawed except in case of treason) and a host of other problems (what’s appropriate for the punishment of “adultery” for example – in the Mosaic Law it was stoning).
4. Jesus said, “All authority in heaven and earth has been given to me…” (Matthew 28:18-20). Does Christ’s authority include authority over government? YES. God called the evil Baybloynian Empire (“my servant”), even though Babylon had nothing to do with Yahweh.
5. Jesus said, “Whoever is not with me is against me” (Matthew 12:30). If our government and constitution don’t acknowledge the lordship of Christ, do you think they are for or against Christ? All governments, whether they ‘acknowledge Christ or not’ (America’s Founding Documents make NO MENTION of Christ) are still “God’s servants” to “punish the evil doer.”

When a Muslim government cuts off a thief’s hand, is that just or unjust? NO When a Mexican sneaks across the border, would it be acceptable for the government to shoot him? NO The Bible speaks on these questions and ALL other questions of civil law and justice. If you reject God’s law, all you have to go on is your opinion.

—————— ME

You said, “Christ’s NEW Commandment to “love one another as I have loved you” (John 13:35)? Is that the Law to which you refer? If so, then NO.”

It sounds like you think there are contradictions between the law of Christ and the law of Moses. Of course the law of Moses is given by Yahweh. Jesus is Yahweh, which is Trinitarianism 101. When Jesus said, “Love your neighbor as yourself” He was quoting Leviticus 19:18. That is hardly a new (as in the something young definition) law that Jesus was instituting.

Furthermore, I don’t think there is any contradiction between what Jesus said and the Old Testament. It’s just that some of the laws are fulfilled by Christ. We obey some of them by trusting in Christ for salvation (ceremonial), and some of them are still binding (at least the moral law).

3. You said there’s no contradiction between natural law and Christ’s law. Then you said read the first paragraph to see the problem with operating under the law of Christ. So I’m confused.

Before Christ, Cicero said, “It is a sin to try to alter this law, nor is it allowable to repeal any part of it, and it is impossible to abolish it entirely.” Yet you say there is a contradiction between Mosaic civil law and natural law. Are you saying the Mosaic civil law was unjust? Hebrews 2:2 says it is just. Or maybe natural law changed after Christ, and Cicero was just incorrect?

5. You didn’t answer the question.

When a Muslim government cuts off a thief’s hand, they’re punishing evil, right? But how do you know what the proper punishment for theft is without looking into Scripture? Scripture provides the only absolute standard of justice. Natural law and reasoning are wholly inadequate for determining the proper punishment for thieves.

You said, “America’s Founding Documents make NO MENTION of Christ”. I’d be content with the Declaration of Independence reference to the Creator (assuming they were referring to the God of the Bible; I don’t know whether they were or not). But the Constitution is antichrist and unbiblical in many ways. It has certainly not been successful in what it set out to accomplish as 55 million dead babies would attest.

Thanks for your responses.