At 2:20, Murray says that you don’t have 5th Amendment protection when you’re not under arrest. Is he that stupid, or is he lying? I bet he really is that stupid.
Also, you don’t have to turn over your keys. That would be covered by the 4th Amendment.
1. Police can’t order people to leave a public sidewalk. No one is obligated to obey such an order.
2. I would guess the girl that got body slammed said something stupid. Police can’t body slam people for saying stupid things.
3. According to God’s law, the first person to draw a gun or a deadly weapon can be killed in self-defense (Numbers 35:16-21, Exodus 22:2-3). Cops don’t have special rights. Bystanders or other cops would be free of guilt in God’s eyes for killing the cop who drew his gun.
4. Abolish the police!
This video is 8 minutes, but you can just watch from 2:30-3:30 or so. And be sure to watch the first 10 seconds of Officer Nutjob doing the TJ Hooker roll.
There is little evidence of any wrongdoing on the part of the bikers. There is evidence of a police cover up, however. What if government snipers (cops) picked off mostly unarmed American citizens, without provocation?
It’s shocking and un-American. It’s murder. And no one seems to care, and everyone goes on thinking this is the freest country in the world.
Here’s someone who is doing something about it on the legal front:
Posse Comitatus is the law that says the military can’t act as law enforcement on US soil. These guys were dressed like they were fighting house to house in Iraq. Just because the “peace” officers aren’t employed by the military doesn’t mean they’re not violating the law.
The Evansville PD was executing a search warrant, because someone posted threats to police on the internet.
I don’t think it’s just the NYPD with an itchy trigger finger problem–it’s pretty much every city in America. But certain agencies of the NY city government have noticed the problem. They’re making the housing authority maintenance men wear orange vests to hopefully cause the cops to pause for a moment.
Of course, once there is a criminal that wears an orange vest, the PD will probably put out bounties on guys wearing orange vests.
I love what Bojidar said:
So, the NYC government finally figured out who the greatest threat to safety and security is. It’s the NYPD.
I’m dead serious that the police should be abolished. I say this for five main reasons.
1. Ancient Israel was the freest country in the history of the world. Early America was a close second. Israel was operating under God’s law, and He didn’t institute a police force.
2. This country didn’t have a police force until the 1830s. The founding fathers didn’t see the need for police.
3. No one should have extra rights. The founding fathers didn’t want anyone to be considered a special class of people who operated under different laws than everyone else.
4. The funding for police is taken from people by threat of force aka taxation. This is immoral. It is stealing.
5. Cops have become the biggest, most violent gang of thugs in the country. They have become highly militarized. And, they really are above the law. They don’t have to live up to the same standards as everyone else, and they take full advantage of that status.
However, this doesn’t mean that I’m just trusting people not to murder and steal. There still needs to be law enforcement. It’s just that it will be biblical, voluntary and private.
1. God’s Law Says There Will Be No Cops
I’m a theonomist (which means I’m a Christian who believes the civil laws of Israel ought to be the land of the law today). Ancient Israel did not have police. Their taxes were extremely low, and the extent of their government was a court system. When a crime was committed, the victim would charge the guilty party in the court system. The court would hold a trial and if there was a guilty verdict, the victim and witnesses would carry out the punishment, along with any of the available townspeople, if necessary. There were no cops going around looking for trouble.
2. No Police In America Until the 1830s
You have to check out the article referenced here. It is a great article about the unconstitutionality of police. I made it into a pdf and read it on my kindle. It came out to be about 30 pages of reading and 40 pages of footnotes. I can’t stress what a great article it is, and it’s free.
It is astonishing the freedoms we as Americans have given up. There were no cops but crimes were still punished, because they attempted to implement to the best of their ability a biblical society. Their system resembled that of ancient Israel. Why have we abandoned what they did? Why are the conservatives now the ones worshiping cops when they should be the most passionate about returning to how things were in this country originally? Because we’ve been duped. We’ve been educated by the government and we’re embarrassingly ignorant of our own history.
3. No one should have extra rights. In some places in history, the king and his representatives didn’t have to live by the same law as everyone else. This is something the founding fathers did not want. Over time, that is exactly what we’ve gotten with police.
The police have been placed under special laws so that they can do police work without getting sued every time they turn around; they bear no personal liability–their judgments are paid by the government under which they operate. I say if they can’t do their job without getting sued, then maybe their job isn’t realistic. They should be held to the same standard as everyone else, and if they do something stupid, they should be personally liable.
4. Police Are Funded By Theft
Most police are municipal cops. They are funded by city sales taxes, lodging taxes etc. What happens if a business doesn’t pay its tax? They will have a lien placed on their property or their bank accounts garnished. They are essentially forced to pay. Most people think it’s wrong to use violence or the threat of violence to get their way. But if it’s a government entity who is using violence to get their way, most people seem OK with it. I don’t get it.
Those who perpetrate this theft will stand before God and give an account. They won’t be able to point to their boss or their congressman or president. They will be guilty and naked before their Creator. That means the sweet old ladies at the county treasurer’s office or the deputies who carry out an eviction against people who haven’t paid their property taxes or ANYONE who works for the IRS are in trouble. I would be scared of God’s judgment if I even mowed the IRS’ grass.
5. Cops Are Abusing The American People
What might happen if there were no armed thugs to walk around making sure bad guys don’t steal purses. Well, it’s been attempted in big cities like New York and small cities. Pandemonium did not ensue. The Lord keeps us safe–not the government.
What should we do instead of forcing taxpayers to pay for the gang of thugs that oppresses them? Arrests should only be made when a court issues an arrest warrant. Anyone can make such an arrest including private bounty hunters. And anyone can arrest a person while committing a crime. All citizens and bounty hunters/private detectives would be held to the same standard. There would be no special class of people under the law. Before police existed in America, Alexis de Tocqueville said that virtually no crime went unpunished.
Check out these other blog entries to see how cops are abusing Americans. They are the biggest, most violent gang in the country.
“It is for this reason that we see, in modern America, the growth of the police state. Since civil government in America has long lost whatever legitimacy it had under God, its has become a pagan state. Projection of raw power, then, becomes crucial to the maintenance and the legitimization of the authority of civil government. And not only just the projection of raw power, but the exercise of raw power in terrorizing the population is crucial: to destroy the rule of law, which is a testimony for the Gospel, a pagan government must replace it with rule of man, and that rule of man must be exercised against the Law, so that the mighty men may legitimize their authority. The claims that police needs all this excessive firepower to do their job are proven false by the fact that police is one of the safest jobs around; more police officers die of reckless driving than of assaults. The projection of power is needed because for a pagan state, it is the only means to legitimize authority.
It is for this reason the empires in the Bible are described as ravenous beasts who trample, crush, destroy, tear apart, devour their victims. It is not just uncontrollable, occasional impulse of some pagan states; violence and state terrorism against its own population becomes a religious necessity for the pagan state. So whenever you see cops in full military gear facing unarmed protesters, it is not self-protection; it is a religious statement. It is the modern Nimrod using his might to legitimize his right.”
From this article: It was not until the 1830s that the idea of a centralized municipal police department first emerged in the United States. In 1838, the city of Boston established the first American police force, followed by New York City in 1845, Albany, NY and Chicago in 1851, New Orleans and Cincinnati in 1853, Philadelphia in 1855, and Newark, NJ and Baltimore in 1857 (Harring 1983, Lundman 1980; Lynch 1984). By the 1880s all major U.S. cities had municipal police forces in place.
Maybe there is a better way to do things. Maybe we should abolish the police.
Bojidar Marinov said, “It becomes clearer and clearer that police are an unnecessary, un-Biblical, and anti-Constitutional institution. We need to abolish it and replace it with court [summons] and armed citizenry. A standing army designed to oppress the citizenry – which is what police are – is an institution of tyranny.”
In response to a comment, he said, “We are just not used to the idea [of abolishing police forces]. This always reminds me of how people in Eastern Europe reacted to the legal changes after the fall of Communism: “What will happen if they remove government controls over prices? What will happen if all business is private and the private owner doesn’t want to hire people? What will happen when the government gets rid of its rental residential properties? What will happen if the land is returned to the owners? What will happen if everyone had a gun?”
The truth is, nothing dangerous will happen if we abolish police today. Our life will continue being the same as before – except that we won’t be extorted for made up “violations” and “crimes.”
The most obvious result will be the disappearance of government revenues. Look at NYC: The cops decided to withdraw from active policing, and the city went about its business with no problem – but then, it was the City government that was really concerned because there were no revenues!”
Please take the time to teach your kids their constitutional rights. If you’re sending your kids to the state for their schooling, they aren’t going to teach them how to stand up to the state. Teach them not to talk to the cops or consent to searches. These are guaranteed by the 4th and 5th amendments. Isn’t the most patriotic thing we could do is exercise our rights?
I’m going to keep the link to this video handy and send it to anyone who thinks you should cooperate with the cops. This guy consented to everything they wanted to do. He was a good slave and look what it got him.
At this point, the war on drugs is more destructive than the drugs themselves.
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