Category Archives: Border Policy

Border Policy

Should Israel Have Open Borders, Too?

Someone asked that question on Facebook, and here is the awesome response by Nicholas Perez.

“Country” is a confusing word, because it is foreign to the Bible. When we impose our contemporary concept of “nation state” on the Bible, we are bound to get confused, because “nations” in the Bible were people united by a common god, and Israel was united by it’s being being governed by the law of the one, true God. Nation states as we know them today are united by a common government, which is why I do not identify as an American. I am a Christian, and I am ruled by God’s law. True, I am commanded to submit to the pagan rulers set over me, but only until their evil rule is overthrown, and righteousness is established.

The reason I bring that up first is that I would not want to confuse a “nation,” as we know them today, with a Biblical nation.

In order to speak without confusion, we would not ask ourselves whether a pagan “nation” like Israel or the USA ought to have open borders. That is like asking, “Should a homosexual man stop cheating on his husband?” The question is nonsense, because homosexuality is evil, and their “marriage” is illegitimate, null, and void. The same is true of nation states as we know them. Their very existence is illegitimate, null, and void. To ask whether or not an illegitimate entity should not violate the right of travel of free people is a nonsense question, and a redundancy when worded accurately. What the homosexual in the analogy really needs is to repent and submit to God’s law. Once he does that, EVERYTHING will change.

The same is true of Israel and the US. Everything must change, and once they submit to God, they will not only open up their borders. They will cease to be nation states, for there is no such thing as a Biblical nation state (in the sense that we know them).

Perhaps a better and more direct way to answer your question is if you were asking it this way, “Did the Biblical nation of Israel have open borders, even though they were surrounded by their enemies?” The simple answer is, yes. It did.

Border Policy

Big Government Conservatives

Someone made this objection to Gavin’s post:

“In the second poll the reader sees the implications of having no borders. They don’t want criminals invading our country, sex trafficking and drug trafficking, and plundering through the welfare state.”

Bojidar Marinov had this brilliant response:

“In other words, Americans believe that whoever is a citizen, is by default good, and needs no government control, but whoever is not a citizen, is by default bad, and therefore needs to be controlled by the government.

Which means, a piece of paper by the government makes you good. Legality makes ethics.

Which is another proof for the degeneration of Americans from the original intent of the Founding Fathers. A people that believes that legality makes morality is a socialist people.”

Border Policy

Retarded Arguments

I’ve never heard any decent responses to my arguments for open borders. In this initial comment, I argued from the Constitution, something conservatives supposedly respect, though I’ve seen nothing but disdain for the Constitution from conservatives.

I have no idea why Mexico’s treatment of immigrants would be relevant to this discussion, and it certainly isn’t a response to the point I made.

Here’s the conversation. My comments are the first and the last.

Abolish The Police, Border Policy, Christianity, For My Kids

Teach Your Children

Little girl detained by Border Patrol scum for 32 hours…ALONE!

This 9-year-old girl is a U.S. citizen, with a passport, and was detained for 32 hours, by herself, because she gave inconsistent answers to questions. I have two main points to make about this.

First, teach your children to disrespect false authority, and to not to talk to government officials, whether it’s border patrol, local police, child protective service, school teachers (because I know no one reading this would ever be stupid enough to send their kids to public school), or anyone else with the government. We all have a 5th Amendment right to not answer questions. What good is a right if you voluntarily give it up? If they don’t answer questions, their answers won’t be inconsistent, as this girl had, and is completely understandable for a girl her age.

I have told my kids this, but who knows how they would actually behave when under pressure. This is a good opportunity for a refresher.

Second, most of my friends are conservatives. Standard conservative beliefs include the following two tenets:

1. You should submit to, and honor law enforcement.
2. Members of the armed forces serve to protect our freedom.

These are contradictory beliefs. The police lie and steal (via civil asset forfeiture, frivolous traffic ticketing and enforcing unjust taxation) to take away our freedom.

Most of my conservative friends would be in shock that I’m not teaching my children to be subservient to the police, and that the police aren’t a valid authority. They would be in shock if I told my kids to remain silent and not answer government’s questions.

However, the best way to honor the sacrifice of military veterans is to exercise those freedoms they fought for. Remaining silent is the best way to honor veterans. When you surrender your freedoms you’re disrespecting the sacrifice of veterans.

Border Policy, Theonomy

Bo Clears That Right Up

There are often misunderstandings among Christians over what the Old Testament teaches on a certain topic. Here is one such example.

Misunderstander 1 says, “Restore OT immigration policy. Servants until the 3rd generation so that they are adequately educated on the culture and assimilated before they enjoy benefits and authorities of a “member of the congregation “.

[At least this individual wants to restore biblical policy, unlike most Christians who want a police state to enforce their arbitrary whims.]

Bo says, “There was no such “immigration policy” in the OT. No one could be forced to be a servant for any reason whatsoever except for crime. Even those who were slaves in foreign lands and fled to Israel, automatically were to be considered free persons.

Caleb was a second generation “immigrant.” His father was a Kenezite – from one of the Canaanitic tribes. He was a prince of Judah, not a servant. Obed-Edom was a first generation immigrant from the Philistines; he was originally from Gath, a compatriot of Goliath. He was appointed worship leader in the Temple. Certainly not a servant.

I am afraid, some of your practical theology may be rather based on modern politics than on the plain Biblical text.”

Misunderstander 2 writes, “Not all the individuals the Israelites made to serve them were guilty of a crime, but they were part of the spoils of war.”

Bo says, “To the contrary, they WERE guilty of a crime. They were Canaanites, the original inhabitants of the land, who were able to trick the Israelites into making a covenant with them. As Canaanites, they were guilty of the crimes that God condemned all Canaan for, but they got grace.

Again, those were not immigrants. Those were the original inhabitants of the land. As to immigrants, there was absolutely no rule about their immigration. There was only the rule about citizenship, and that was only about SOME of the cultures, not all. Ammonites and Moabites took ten generations to become citizens, Edomites and Egyptians took three generations. Everyone else could become a citizen upon conversion. And that was only about citizenship. Immigration was open to all.”

Hopefully, this will help us all remember, and understand God’s law better.

Border Policy, Theonomy

Conversation With Conservatives

Conservatives are just as socialist as liberals. They just have different programs, and don’t call it socialism. They are also just as anti-constitution. If half their lip service were true, I’d probably still be willing to call myself a conservative.

Here’s a typical conversation I’ve had on the topic of the constitution and immigration. I’ve had almost this exact conversation with about 15 different people now.

Me: “The Constitution doesn’t give the federal government power to regulate immigration. The founding fathers didn’t think it was the government’s business to control who comes and goes.”

“Conservative”: “You’re stupid.”

Me: “Prove me wrong. Cite the Constitution.”

After skimming the Constitution for the first time in their life, the conversation continues.

“Conservative”: “Well, times were different then. They needed to populate the continent.”

Me: “That’s the same argument they use when they want to ban guns. They say times were different then. The 2nd Amendment only applied to muskets. You have such little respect for the Constitution that you don’t even care to amend it. I always thought liberals were the ones who wanted to ignore the Constitution. ”

Border Policy, Conversation

But You Should Be Afraid of Illegals!

One of the newer tactics of socialists clamoring for a border wall is to cite examples of people who have been harmed by illegal aliens. Of course, there are illegals who do bad things. If that’s the standard you are going to use, you must be consistent, and apply that standard consistently to all groups. Here’s an example of someone who did just that.

The previous commenter had cited 3 or 4 cases of people who had been murdered, and this was Bo’s response.

Border Policy

Who’s Side Is This Guy On?

This Tucker Carlson/PragerU video spends about four out of five minutes of its length describing how border regulations have traditionally been a liberal Democrat position. That is a point I even made a video about, which I’ll post again below the Tucker Carlson video. He’s too stupid to realize that espousing the socialist position on this topic is bad. And the commenters on Youtube certainly don’t get it.

My Christian friends will occasionally post videos of Bill Clinton saying the things Tucker quotes in the video. Their point is to say that Trump is ridiculed for saying the same thing Clinton said 20 years ago. I point out that TRUMP IS SAYING THE SAME THING CLINTON SAID 20 YEARS AGO. Conservatives thought Clinton was a bad dude back then, but now they’re endorsing Clinton’s policies, and they’ve been duped into thinking that’s a good thing. Trump is the 2nd coming of Bill Clinton and conservatives and Christians love him. Have they all moved to the left, or do they just blindly follow anyone who has an “R” after their name.

I also am interested in exploring some of the history with Cesar Chavez as there is an elementary school and a street named after him in Pueblo. He was a socialist dirtbag who resorted to violence to limit immigration. That topic may be a great idea for a tract to pass out in Pueblo.

Here’s a couple of questions I have for old Tucker.

  1. If the party who gives “illegals” citizenship gets the votes of the illegals, why don’t Republicans do as Reagan did and give them citizenship?
  2. If illegals vote so decisively for Democrats, and Democrats are scheming to get people stepping right off the boat into the polling booth, why did Obama deport more than all previous presidents combined?

Here’s my video showing that not only are the Republicans endorsing Democrat policies of 20 years ago, they’re endorsing Obama’s policies. Their hatred of him is still palpable, yet they’re just so duped.

Border Policy

Almost Poetic Perspective on Honduran Women

I read this, and I was thinking a little more about it later, and I was thinking it’s a poem. I went back and read it, and it’s not a poem, but it is poetic. I like it, and I usually hate poems.

“We let glossy-lipped, TelePrompTer women, who have Mexicans clean their homes, tell us that we should be terrified of the sunburned callous-handed, Hondurans who hate corruption enough to run for their lives.

They are sexy, fear-puppets of Baal, who quiver the liver with their statist seduction songs, while women of true substance trek countless kilometers in hopes of sacrificing their lives for their children’s’ future.

The caravan is coming.
With Sarah, Rebecca, and Leah at the lead.

The covergirl Cannanites should worry.”

-Heidi Smith