Conversation With Border Patrol Checkpoint Guy

I had a conversation on Facebook with a guy who said he’s a federal agent. As the conversation went on, I started to think more and more that he’s actually a guy who works at the checkpoints. It started out with me posting this meme in the comments of a Facebook post. Here’s the conversation.



Fed:
if you think BP checkpoints infringe on your freedoms than you’re a moron plain amd simple. Everybody wants freedom until they have to do their small part to maintain it then they cry like you. Cry harder

Me:
How are checkpoints maintaining freedom?

Fed:
checkpoints take drugs off the streets and limit the flow of illegals traveling northbound into the interior. They have a good success rate with daily seizures and captures. You wanna live in a drug free society. You want your kids to not be kidnapped and trafficked for sex that kind of security isn’t fee. It requires you to spend about 3 seconds of your life answering a question. Hardly an infringement and btw the supreme court already ruled that nothing done at BP checkpoints is unconstitutional. Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. A tiny sacrifice that allows agents 1 more chance to find bad things. And btw it’s hundreds of pounds a week in narcotics

Me:
your comment is exactly what the meme is responding to. You beg to give up your God-given freedoms because you’re scared.

Fed:
what God given right do checkpoints take away? Scared lol. Look bud I’m a federal agent. Instead first hand what comes across the border and instead the statistics. If you think it’s family units lookikg for jobs and better lives you are foolishly naive. Military age males describe about 9 out 10 brush apprehensions. Hundreds of pounds of fentanyl and heroin, meth, etc trafficked in and seiezed. If you think drug seizures and pedophiles being arrested is a bad thing just say so. El Salvador amd Venezuela have no room in their prisons so they release ppl and send them north. Murderers, rapists, cartel members, all coming here to exploit American freedom while “men” like you say bizz words like scared to justify your argument.

Me:
You’re a federal agent? It’s hard to get someone to see the truth whose paycheck depends on him not seeing the truth. The Supreme Court has ruled that black people can be enslaved and babies can be murdered in their mothers’ wombs. I have zero respect for that bunch of weirdos in black dresses.

What rights do checkpoints take away? My right to travel without being forced to answer questions.

Drug seizures are a bad thing. We learned from prohibition that making alcohol illegal was a bad idea. There was all kinds of violence resulting from prohibition that we don’t see anymore. There are drawbacks to legal alcohol, but giving away freedoms for socialist, big-government programs is a bad idea.

If we put checkpoints all over the place and stopped people, we could catch a lot of bad guys. That would be unconstitutional. Why is something that would be unconstitutional in Nebraska, constitutional because it’s within 100 miles of the border?

On the border, just as with all big-government, socialist programs, there are unintended consequences. Immigrants are forced to sneak across the border. It’s hard to sneak through the desert with a family. If the border were open, there would be problems, but God won’t bless a nation that trusts in socialism and giving away their freedoms. We are to do the right thing and leave the consequences to God.

Fed:
checkpoints take drugs off the streets and limit the flow of illegals traveling northbound into the interior. They have a good success rate with daily seizures and captures. You wanna live in a drug free society. You want your kids to not be kidnapped amd trafficked for sex that kind of security isn’t fee. It requires you to spend about 3 seconds of your life answering a question. Hardly an infringement and btw the supreme court already ruled that nothing done at BP checkpoints is unconstitutional. Ask not what your country can do for you butbwhay you can do for your country. A tiny sacrifice that allows agents 1 more chance to find bad things. And btw it’s hundreds of pounds a week in narcotics

Me:
your comment is exactly what the meme is responding to. You beg to give up your God-given freedoms because you’re scared.

Fed:
what God given right do checkpoints take away? Scared lol. Look bud I’m a federal agent. Instead first hand what comes across the border and instead the statistics. If you think it’s family units lookikg for jobs and better lives you are foolishly naive. Military age males describe about 9 out 10 brush apprehensions. Hundreds of pounds of fentanyl and heroin, meth, etc trafficked in and seiezed. If you think drug seizures and pedophiles being arrested is a bad thing just say so. El Salvador amd Venezuela have no room in their prisons so they release ppl and send them north. Murderers, rapists, cartel members, all coming here to exploit American freedom while “men” like you say bizz words like scared to justify your argument.

Me:
You’re a federal agent? It’s hard to get someone to see the truth whose paycheck depends on him not seeing the truth. The Supreme Court has ruled that black people can be enslaved and babies can be murdered in their mothers’ wombs. I have zero respect for that bunch of weirdos in black dresses.

What rights do checkpoints take away? My right to travel without being forced to answer questions.

Drug seizures are a bad thing. We learned from prohibition that making alcohol illegal was a bad idea. There was all kinds of violence resulting from prohibition that we don’t see anymore. There are drawbacks to legal alcohol, but giving away freedoms for socialist, big-government programs is a bad idea.

If we put checkpoints all over the place and stopped people, we could catch a lot of bad guys. That would be unconstitutional. Why is something that would be unconstitutional in Nebraska, constitutional because it’s within 100 miles of the border?

On the border, just as with all big-government, socialist programs, there are unintended consequences. Immigrants are forced to sneak across the border. It’s hard to sneak through the desert with a family. If the border were open, there would be problems, but God won’t bless a nation that trusts in socialism and giving away their freedoms. We are to do the right thing and leave the consequences to God.

Fed:
if you think open borders is a good idea than there’s no point in continuing a discussion. You are clearly far beyond naive. Even with these relaxed border policies we are facing cities like El Paso are in a state of emergency. Homeless shelters are maxed out out. Illegal immigrants recieving NTA papers get more money than American Citizens on SNAP. I believe in God as well but this is why there is a separation between church and state because not everybody believes in God and the honor system doesn’t work. In countries like Venezuela and Guatemala child sdx trafficking and rape is prevalent and now that problem comes here. Also comparing drugs and alcohol is absurd. Beer and liquor can certainly be consumed I’m moderation without issue but fentanyl cannot. Heroin cannot. Methamphetamine cannot. I’d these checkpoints weren’t successful they would close. Deemed a waste of money but because we find so much stuff we continue to operate. So again you things taking drugs off the street is bad cool. You think locking up child abductors is bad cool. When an illegal migrant rapes a family member of yours don’t cry about it.

Me:
open borders was one of America’s founding principles. Your argument is with the founding fathers.

Like I said from the beginning, you’re touting how dangerous these people are and how we need to surrender our rights for safety. I don’t mean you’re personally scared but you’re fear-mongering.

You can separate Christianity and state. You can’t separate religion and state. The only question is which god will be the god of the system?

Why are checkpoints that would be unconstitutional in Nebraska be constitutional within 100 miles of the border?

Fed:
it’s not fear mongering if the threat is real and credible. DHS doesn’t just make up numbers for fun and I see the seizures first hand. The issue is that an uptick in sexual assault, assault, and theft has occurred in border towns and border states since we relaxed the standards at the border and canceled the remaining in Mexico policy. Fera mongering would only hold water if nothing was ac5ually happening and the argument was that it “could”. I’ve literally pulled small minor girls out of locked tool boxes in ppl trucks who were being trafficked into the US. Kidnapped to be sold. Seen it first hand.
Also who’s to say it would be illegal in Nebraska? Just the farther into the interior you go the quicker they spread out and the odds of catching them becomes slim. So we justify within 100 Miles. It’s common sense

End of Conversation.

Of course it would be a dream come true to go person-by-person and present all of my persuasive arguments to each evil bureaucrat and persuade each one to stop committing the evil they do every day. But as I mentioned in the conversation, they get good benefits and they probably earn more money than they could at any other job. His lifestyle is dependent on him not thinking he’s abusing people. He has a very real motivation to think crossing an imaginary line is a sin and that perpetuating a black market in drugs is righteous. I’m still shocked that hardly anyone cares what the founding fathers thought. The meme is spot on in his case and he’s just not smart enough to see it.