There’s a pro-freedom, local page that I take part in. A lady posted about how courageous everyone opposed to masks was at the school board meeting where they were begging their school board masters not to make them mask/abuse their children. First of all, I think sending our kids to socialist, government schools is the primary cause of this country’s long, gradual destruction. We’re handing our kids over to be discipled by the enemy, and teaching them that socialism is the best way to educate them.
I wanted to post something, along those lines in the conversation, but the post was already two days old when I first happened across it. I decided to post a meme that would hopefully get people thinking about how stupid it is to send their kids to the government. Below is what I posted and the ensuing conversation with one lady.
The quote in the picture of the school bus says, “Parents give up their rights when they drop the children off at public school.” -Texas Federal District Judge, Melinda Harmon.
Of course the quote is absolutely true, if you know the law. They can do all kinds of things to kids without your consent while they’re at school. Additionally, anyone who thinks that’s not true, sent their kids to school all last year wearing masks, so I’m not too impressed with anyone who claims to be not giving up their rights.
The thing I wanted to point out with this conversation is that Ms. Kunkel objects to my calling public school a socialist program, or being free. She has no idea what socialism is. The vast majority of conservatives/Christians opposed to socialism and wanting it to end have no idea what it is or that they are participating. They have no idea that their continued participation in the program is destroying our country. They have no idea that when they go beg the school board for scraps, they’re advocating for socialism.
We will continue to lose until pastors speak up about not sending Christian children to be educated in the false religion of human secularism.
The bad thing about how the internet works is people can just take things down and break links, so many of the links on this site are just not viewable anymore, and even I don’t know what they were in reference to 100% of the time. I posted this video about John Macarthur’s response to Operation Rescue in the 1980s. One of the links went to an LA Times article, and the link changed. I want to post the article here for safe keeping. It will be easy to find on their website by searching any of the longer phrases.
Here is the video I made, and below that is the text of the LA Times article:
ABORTION PROTESTS IN THE SOUTHLAND : Clerics’ Views Differ Over Militant Action
BY RUSSELL CHANDLER AND JOHN DARTMARCH 25, 1989 12 AM PTTIMES RELIGION WRITERS
The militant Operation Rescue anti-abortion movement has divided the ranks of Southern California Christians and stirred moderate opposition from pro-choice clergy.
But the vast majority of religious leaders–already immersed in Holy Week activities–stayed on the sidelines, in part because of disagreement over the protesters’ tactics of civil disobedience and fundamentalist rhetoric.
Devout Roman Catholics on both sides of the emotionally charged abortion protest paraded, prayed and held signs with opposing messages Friday outside a Long Beach family planning clinic targeted by Operation Rescue.
“I’m not pro-abortion, I’m pro-choice,” declared Armida Brashears, 54, of Huntington Beach, a Catholic mother of three and a member of the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights. Brashears was accompanied by her placard-carrying mother, 77, “a pro-choice Catholic who goes to church religiously every week,” in the words of her daughter.
But also marching back and forth in front of the clinic was Maria Famolaro, 15, of Cypress, who prayed loudly and earnestly while fingering her rosary.
“We are praying for the people so they will understand abortion is killing those who can’t speak for themselves,” she said.
Few Catholic priests apparently took part in the demonstrations, and Los Angeles Archbishop Roger M. Mahony extended only lukewarm support to Operation Rescue, giving its goals his “blessing” but questioning the effectiveness of its methods.
Norbertine Father Leo John Celano of St. Michael’s Abbey in the Diocese of Orange and a member of the Operation Rescue steering committee said he believed that more Catholic priests did not join him in Long Beach Friday because they are “the least available” just before Easter.
Clergy leadership in Operation Rescue, both nationally and in Southern California, is largely made up of theologically conservative Protestants.
The Rev. Randy Adler, 43, pastor of the nondenominational Stone Mountain Church in Laguna Hills, stressed God’s judgment upon a disobedient nation–a theme heard often in fundamentalist and charismatic church groups.
“The babies are secondary,” Adler, who was arrested during Thursday’s Operation Rescue sit-in in Cypress, said in a brief interview Friday.
“God has always judged nations that have destroyed classes of people. . . . (Abortionists) are brutally murdering the defenseless and innocent. . . . We’ve got their blood on our hands.”
But not all conservative Protestants agree with that interpretation of Scripture.
Grace Community Church in Panorama City, whose senior pastor, John MacArthur, is influential among evangelicals and fundamentalists, explained its opposition to Operation Rescue and civil disobedience in general in an article distributed to its nearly 10,000 churchgoers.
The statement noted that no government authority is requiring abortions to be performed and that the Apostle Paul said that civil law must be obeyed.
While opposing all forms of abortion, MacArthur’s church facetiously chided Operation Rescue for not preventing gays from going into bathhouses, parents from abusing children or otherwise stepping into other situations where “any of God’s laws (are) being broken.”
“The church has never been called to prevent sin by force or intrusion but to proclaim the Gospel to sinners,” the church statement said.
Operation Rescue’s approach provoked opposite responses from two popular Southern California evangelical talk-show hosts.
Rich Buhler of KBRT participated in Friday’s Long Beach demonstration and said he saw nothing wrong with Rescue’s civil disobedience.
“If we really believe it’s a human life in the womb, then we have to do more than print pamphlets and march in front of clinics,” he said.
However, KKLA’s John Stewart said in an interview he remains convinced that day-to-day “sidewalk counseling” by anti-abortion workers outside clinics is much more effective than the dramatic attempts to close down clinics for a day or two.
“God bless the people putting themselves on the line, but this seems almost like a frustrated reaction to the fact that abortion laws have not changed,” Stewart said.
Meanwhile, in a Friday morning news conference at Hollywood United Methodist Church, several pro-choice religious leaders emphasized that religious people within all denominations have differing views on abortion.
“But we disagree in a friendly way . . . rather than this circus attitude that Operation Rescue has brought to Los Angeles,” said the Rev. Ignacio Castuera, pastor of the Hollywood church.
Two Reform Jewish rabbis and Lisa Desposito, the six-months-pregnant state director of Catholics for Free Choice, challenged the tactics of Operation Rescue and defended the “choice” stance on abortion as morally justified.
Judaism has always recognized that when pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, an abortion is permissible, but rabbinical opinion differs on other difficulties surrounding giving birth, said Rabbi Janet Marder, assistant regional director for Reform Jewish congregations in Southern California.
Referring to the protesters, Desposito said: “I don’t see Martin Luther Kings. . . . I see bigots, moral absolutists.”
The Rev. E .V. Hill of Mt. Zion Missionary Baptist Church in Los Angeles disagreed. In a telephone interview, the pastor said there is a valid comparison between the Rescue operation and the arrest-drawing civil rights movement led by King.
However, Hill and most other prominent Southern California ministers have neither been involved in Operation Rescue nor issued public statements about it.
But on Good Friday, some clergy who did take a stand appealed to the scriptural model of Jesus for support.
“We would honor (Jesus) most this day by following his example,” said the Rev. Martha Siegel, who chairs the Los Angeles Episcopal Diocese Commission on Theology and Human Sexuality.
“In this holy season, we remember Jesus Christ, who did not coerce belief or intimidate people into improper behavior but drew them through his example of self-giving love,” Siegel said at the Hollywood news conference.
And in the crowd Friday, the Rev. Dusty Pruett, 42, pastor of the homosexual-oriented Metropolitan Community Church in Long Beach, declared:
“I think Jesus would be here for women holding up a sign saying, ‘I’m for pro-choice.’ He had a heart for the oppressed.”
The Rev. Joseph Foreman, 34, of the Presbyterian Church in America and national field director of Operation Rescue, also thought that Christ would have been in Long Beach.
“This is Good Friday, when Jesus led the first ‘rescue,’ ” he said, referring to the Christian belief that Jesus saved humanity from sin by his death on the cross.
At least one banner-carrying demonstrator Friday thought the uproar over abortion was beside the point. Premarital sex, insisted Stephen Christian of Los Angeles, is the culprit making abortions necessary.
There is a proposal for a new recreation center in Canon City. I don’t know how it will be paid for but I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if they wanted to raise taxes. I’m not the only one who thought that as I read the first few comments, which I’ve pasted below. I’m only pasting the pro-tax comments. There were several anti-tax comments as well.
My Christian Acquaintance, who is a leader in a church, “Keep pushing, lets get it done!”
Another Christian Acquaintance: Excited for this hope we get this in canon tax away !!
Random Stranger: Why are you against being taxed for something that will HELP your community?? “Taxes: you have to pay for the goose that lays the Golden egg.” Even La Junta has a Rec Center.
Randam Stranger 2: I would happily love for my tax money to go to something product for everyone here in Fremont so that they can get out and live better lives, screw being greedy I’m all for the fun and bringing for recreation to the people!
After reading all that, I had to say something.
ME: If you’re willing to have your taxes raised to pay for this, then you’d be willing to write a check voluntarily. Advocating for higher taxes is saying you want your neighbors to be forced to pay for it whether they want to or not. You’re committing the sin of covetousness.
And Alexis responded to my comment.
ALEXIS: I see it differently. I see that all of us should be invested in a healthy community. Each is us pays a tiny bit extra, everyone has a chance to participate. Even those who don’t participate reap the benefits of a healthier, happier community. To not want to help the community is committing the sin of greed.
ME: You may be right that this is the greatest thing ever, but if someone disagrees, you don’t really care, you want them to pay whether they like it or not. You are breaking the 10th Commandment.
“For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.” Ephesians 5:5
ALEXIS: “judge not, lest ye be judged.” We all need to pay our share. We pay for roads, we pay for fire and police services even if we never need them. Health is important, and if we share in the costs, we all win. So please spare me your self-righteous preaching.
ME: Are you judging me as having judged you? By doing that, you actually are judging hypocritically, and violating Jesus’ teaching. But you’re misunderstanding what He was saying. Jesus said to judge with righteous judgment (John 7:24).
You’re committing the sin of covetousness. If your eye causes you to sin, you should pluck it out, because it’s better to go to heaven with one eye than to go to hell with two.
“Judge not, let ye be judged.” is every unbeliever’s favorite Bible verse, quoted in perfect King James English.
Of course, unbelievers hatch all kinds of evil schemes and perpetrate all sorts of injustices. What do you expect? The problem is that in the face of all sorts of socialist programs and tax hikes, Christians are SILENT when such things violate God’s prohibitions on covetousness and theft at the very least (20% of the Ten Commandments). There is zero application of Scripture to the real world or to government from the pulpits. If Christians applied Scripture to government properly, and acted consistently in their own lives, we could defeat socialism tomorrow, and do it easily. But Christians want a rec center and public school, so they advocate for socialism alongside unbelievers.
Every pastor that doesn’t preach against every tax hike and socialism is a hireling who should be tossed out of the pulpit. A mass pulpit purging is what needs to happen in America before anything else good will happen.
Dear reader, do you think my kids know whether they ought to talk to police? Do your kids know? Should you just let these dirtbags into your house?
Do you think Tiger Woods knows the rules of golf? Of course. He uses them to his advantage. We’re all playing the game of life, and we better know the rules.
Are you looking for something you can do for Christ? Here’s a list of ideas from Paul Dorr.
• Confront abortion clinics with the love of Christ while reminding them of the wrath of God • Expose pastors pushing to poison many with the vaccination. • Confront local government waste. • Leaflet drop school parking lots on the sin of public education. • Expose bond dealers plundering local county government • Expose growth in local government employment along with decline in services. • Confront cable companies pouring filth into local communities • Praise local magistrates who are fighting to defend families and property rights • Do public records request of fake government economic development groups and point to those profiteering • Confront gay pride parade with the Gospel • Confront local feminist organizations • Confront feminism in the local churches • Lit-drop and picket neighborhoods of local tyrannical judges • Expose miserable misandrist lawyers exploiting marital difficulties to destroy marriage • Lit-drop local bars on what real Christian manhood looks like and invite them to a Bible study. • Confront local police who are encouraging tyranny • Confront filth at local high schools • Take home-school kids, especially boys, along with many of these public confrontations. Expose them to some human fear while teaching them to cling to Christ
I responded to him about this, and he set a new record for willingness to lick boots. Here’s the short conversation.
A police state is one where the citizens are expected to obey the arbitrary whims of police or face violent consequences. That is exactly what Dean is advocating with the meme he posted.
Furthermore, Daniel Shaver didn’t point a rifle out the window, and even if he did, it’s not illegal to possess a rifle in a hotel room. Even if he was doing something ill-advised, like handling a rifle (or a pellet gun) where other people could see him, 911 should have informed the caller that guns are legal. If that didn’t happen, the cops should have knocked on his door and had a quick discussion rather than acting like a bunch of pansies and end up murdering him due to their fear of a pellet gun.
Daniel Shaver completely complied and didn’t break any laws, but ended up dead, like so many others murdered by police. So many cops are cowards, scared of their own shadows and have their guns on a hair trigger. Police should be abolished. Conservatives are supposed to oppose socialist programs, but that just isn’t the case. They are just as socialist as liberals. They just are too stupid to realize the extent of their socialism.
And I highly recommend studying the history of police in America. Dean is the only one confused on that topic. I posted this article for him, and he claims to have read it in a comment he made 16 minutes after I gave it to him. He must be an amazing reader, because no one could really digest all of this in 16 minutes. It is an amazing history, but somewhat long. I highly recommend reading “Are Cops Constitutional” by Roger Roots.
My friend recommended I watch “Uncle Tom” on Amazon Prime. It makes a lot of good points, and some that I disagree with. I think Larry Elder misses the point and isn’t thinking clearly on some things.
Before that, I will say, I love Herman Cain and his attitude and stories. If someone is a racist, that is their problem. It sucks and I acknowledge that it can and has been costly to people, but we are all responsible to God for what we do with our lives. America has a lot of problems, but there are still a lot of opportunities.
Larry Elder, just to give an example of his erroneous thinking, talks about how immigration should be controlled by government, because immigrants shouldn’t be getting welfare. So, without realizing it, he’s defending the integrity of the welfare system of a nearly-bankrupt, evil government. Why not let the government and the unbiblical welfare system die? He ends up advocating unjust, unamerican, big-government, socialist border policies to protect the unjust, unamerican, big-government, socialist welfare system. Retarded.
But that was all just an aside to the point of the movie. At one point, a guy points out that cops are more likely to kill black people. Elder spouts off a bunch of statistics that were beside the point. Police are a big-government, standing army, funded by socialism. They should be opposed by all conservatives. You can disagree over whether police are systemically racist, but don’t pretend to be a conservative and support the existence of police. Larry Elder repeatedly shows himself to be a fake conservative.
The solution is not to lecture people about racism like liberals, or defend cops at all costs like conservatives, but to end all socialist programs (like police) and let the free market dole out consequences to racists. The color that speaks in the free market is green.
Here’s Bojidar Marinov’s explanation of how individual cops may not be racist while still taking part in a racist system. The rest of this post is his words.
Most people, especially white people, do not understand how institutional (systemic) racism works. They think it is white cops hating black men. But that would be individual, not institutional racism. Institutional/systemic is when the very institution/system is geared so that it targets certain racial group.
Here’s how it works:
All government agencies are under constant pressure to justify their existence and budgets. They need to show some activity that the majority of constituents would deem “necessary.” Police is not an exception. They need to show arrests. More precisely, a GROWING number of arrests to justify their growing force and budgets. But in a world of declining crime figures, that is a challenge.
It is an even greater challenge in a society of increasing wealth, where more and more people can afford good lawyers. Especially in the white neighborhoods or in white-collar areas like Downtown Manhattan. The cost of making arrests there is too high.
Where the cost is low is the black neighborhoods. The probability of a black man to be well-connected and affluent enough to cause legal trouble is very low. Thus, patrolling black neighborhoods is like shooting fish in a barrel for cops. They can make their quotas easily, at a low cost, without any hate to any black man. (That includes black cops.) And indeed, there have been multiple testimonies by cops themselves that this is a regular policy.
There’s something more, and this is the really inconvenient truth: This practice is encouraged by racism in the general public that is not self-conscious but still real. Most people react differently to a white man being arrested and a black man being arrested. And in the latter, it is always assumed that he must have done something. That’s why Chauvin was not concerned that he was on camera; in his eyes, he was doing a service to the society. That has always been the perception. The black man must have done something, and the cop is there to protect us all. He meets his quota, and the society has a “proof” that police protects us against dangerous criminals.
Thus, in order to have institutional/systemic racism, you don’t have to prove that any particular cop is necessarily a racist. You just need to understand how the institution/system works.
And if you want an analogy, no socialist self-consciously hates successful people. It’s when the system is applied, it destroys success by its own operation. Same with systemic racism.
That’s why police needs to go. It will always target the weakest minorities in order to justify its existence. The only solution to it is a return to an America without a standing army on home soil.
“Many of the same people who today complain about vaccination passports are also the kind of people who would complain about “illegal” immigrants, insisting that everyone must go through the government process of getting a visa.”
“Ironically, however, an immigration visa is, among other things, also a vaccination passport itself. One can’t apply for it unless they present a proof of having been vaccinated. We are talking about 6 to 10 different mandatory vaccines, depending on the country of origin. That is a mandatory part of the legal immigration process.”
“I have said it many times before: Whatever you want the government to do to the stranger, it will eventually do it to you. There is no escape from this rule.”
“Enjoy your vaccination passports. And remember: you asked for them.”
Here’s another great post from Nicholas Perez, prompted by James White saying he’s become a postmillennialist:
If I were a pastor converted to postmil, I’d have to think about the fact that Jeremiah 31 and several other passages expressly teach that realization of the New Covenant/postmil hope involves the gradual ABOLITION of pastors and any special class of leadership.
Then I’d ask myself why after 2,000 years, pastors and special leaders have only gradually increased, while Christ has decreased.
Which would lead me to the conclusion that the Body of Christ is at this point in Church history burdened by leaders rather than edified.
I’d repent of making a career on the backs of the people of God. I’d get a job, or start a business. I’d sooner scrub pots and pans than participate in the Ministry Complex which perpetuates the immaturity of the Saints.
What shall we say if this line of reason is sound? Our only conclusion can be that if a pastor professes to be Postmillennial, yet continues to hold his position of leadership, knowing he is a cancer to the Body rather than a blessing, we have no reason to believe he is Postmillennial at all. Maybe not even a believer. If we are being charitable, he is so hopelessly schizophrenic that nobody should ever pay attention to a word he presumptuously says.
